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    Whose doctrine is correct?

    As Christians, servant of the Most High God Jesus, We find ourselves fellowshipping with many denominations and doctrine concerning Jesus.

    have you ask ever ask yourself which or whose doctrine is correct?

    we have the Roman Catholic Church
    we have the many Protestant Church
    we have the many Orthodox church

    all claim to be correct, all have different doctrines and different methods to salvation.

    who is correct?

    Jesus said

    Matthew 24:5
    For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

    Paul said another Jesus will be preached

    2 Corinthians 11:4
    For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him

    who is preaching another Jesus and who is coming int he name of Jesus decieving many?

    I don't want to argue or bring confusion I just want to know your thoughts and why.

    peace in Jesus

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    God is correct.

    There is room for our personal convictions though, assuming we don't beat others over the head with them.

    Read Romans 14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    God is correct.

    There is room for our personal convictions though, assuming we don't beat others over the head with them.

    Read Romans 14.
    we know God is correct, but we live in a world where the denominations I listed say there way is the path to the Lord

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    we know God is correct, but we live in a world where the denominations I listed say there way is the path to the Lord
    I have not heard any Protestant say that being a Protestant is the path to the LORD. I do not think Catholics take this exclusivity either.

    No religion is a path to the LORD. God saves, not religion, and He could care less about the human factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    path to the LORD? No religion is a path to the LORD. God saves, not religion, and He could care less about the human factor.
    I cannot disagree with you, you are 100% correct

    BUT

    we have billion of our brother and sisters faith in the doctrine of these 3 great houses and not in the word's of God.

    what can we do to reverse the deception?

    the Lord had it written that false prophets will teach in his name, this is why I opened with thoses profound verses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    I cannot disagree with you, you are 100% correct

    BUT

    we have billion of our brother and sisters faith in the doctrine of these 3 great houses and not in the word's of God.
    I do not agree with this statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    what can we do to reverse the deception?
    You have much to prove to validate this statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    the Lord had it written that false prophets will teach in his name, this is why I opened with thoses profound verses.
    Would you agree that teaching from the Talmud as an authoritative source belongs in this category?

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    eck553;2674074]I do not agree with this statement.
    why not?

    You have much to prove to validate this statement.
    take baptism

    we have some who sprinkle water
    we have some who submerge in water
    we have some who don't baptize at all

    Would you agree that teaching from the Talmud as an authoritative source belongs in this category?
    who do you know that teaching from the talmud teach Jesus and are christians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    why not?
    Because I believe mainstream Christiantiy is in the Word of God and within God's will.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post

    take baptism

    we have some who sprinkle water
    we have some who submerge in water
    we have some who don't baptize at all
    each of us have access to God's Word and His Spirit and therefore a responsibility to listen to Him so we can correctly read and divide the word of God. We're not going to have the opportunity to point our finger at our local congregation and blame them for our failures.
    God is a God of personal responsibility when it comes to these matters (IMHO).

    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    who do you know that teaching from the talmud teach Jesus and are christians?
    Quite a few Christians who get wound up in Messianic Judaism teach from the Talmud as doctrine.

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    keck553;2674175]Because I believe mainstream Christiantiy is in the Word of God and within God's will.

    mainstream christians keep the first day of the week as a holy convocation, the christians in the bible kept the 7th day of the week. just to start

    each of us have access to God's Word and His Spirit and therefore a responsibility to listen to Him so we can correctly read and divide the word of God. We're not going to have the opportunity to point our finger at our local congregation and blame them for our failures.
    God is a God of personal responsibility when it comes to these matters (IMHO).
    Yet most christians listen to what the pastor and doctrine of the church in that order, then the word of God or reading of the bible may come in.


    Quite a few Christians who get wound up in Messianic Judaism teach from the Talmud as doctrine
    I deal with them is just as as I would a ROMAN Catholic, Protestant and the Orthodox I would tell either one show me your doctrine or denomination in the word of God?

    end conversation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    mainstream christians keep the first day of the week as a holy convocation, the christians in the bible kept the 7th day of the week. just to start
    Mainstream Christians congregate on Sunday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday..whatever. Where does Torah perscribe corporate gathering on Shabbat to gather, worship and study God's Word exclusively? Show me the prohibition to worship on Sunday.

    Keeping Sabbath Biblically has nothing to do with your statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    Yet most christians listen to what the pastor and doctrine of the church in that order, then the word of God or reading of the bible may come in.
    Not in my congregation. Perhaps your assumptions are forged more in self-righteousness than humility? Only you can answer that one I say this with all kindness - because I have been there and done that myself, I can relate. I tell you that path is lonely, destructive and does not fulfill the purpose of God's Law. It hurt me more than anything when I believed I was obeying God's written Law, but in reality I was among the worse transgressors of He weightiest Law, and I pray often for forgiveness for anyone I had hurt or sullied God's Holy name with my self-righteousness, judgemental attitude and distain for other God-fearing and God-loving believers. Many here can testify that what I say is true. .

    Quote Originally Posted by ozell View Post
    I deal with them is just as as I would a ROMAN Catholic, Protestant and the Orthodox I would tell either one show me your doctrine or denomination in the word of God?
    Tell me, what title do you attach to your faith? Please let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    Mainstream Christians congregate on Sunday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday..whatever. Where does Torah perscribe corporate gathering on Shabbat to gather, worship and study God's Word exclusively? Show me the prohibition to worship on Sunday.

    Keeping Sabbath Biblically has nothing to do with your statement.



    Not in my congregation. Perhaps your assumptions are forged more in self-righteousness than humility? Only you can answer that one I say this with all kindness - because I have been there and done that myself, I can relate. I tell you that path is lonely, destructive and does not fulfill the purpose of God's Law. It hurt me more than anything when I believed I was obeying God's written Law, but in reality I was among the worse transgressors of He weightiest Law, and I pray often for forgiveness for anyone I had hurt or sullied God's Holy name with my self-righteousness, judgemental attitude and distain for other God-fearing and God-loving believers. Many here can testify that what I say is true. .



    Tell me, what title do you attach to your faith? Please let us know.
    That was great. Thank you !

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    Because I believe mainstream Christiantiy is in the Word of God and within God's will.



    each of us have access to God's Word and His Spirit and therefore a responsibility to listen to Him so we can correctly read and divide the word of God. We're not going to have the opportunity to point our finger at our local congregation and blame them for our failures.
    God is a God of personal responsibility when it comes to these matters (IMHO).



    Quite a few Christians who get wound up in Messianic Judaism teach from the Talmud as doctrine.
    Quite a few good points all around. We are each called as individuals to accept the Gospel and the claims it has on our lives.
    God happens!
    'I Can Only Imagine'

    Bless the Beasts and the Children:
    http://youtu.be/AhR36gV6vW4

    On cautionary note:
    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectPeter
    When they say something... it is about anyone's guess what it is they really mean... but NEVER ask for clarification of their mysterious language... they are often very happy to give it and that's when the discussion goes FREAKY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    I have not heard any Protestant say that being a Protestant is the path to the LORD. I do not think Catholics take this exclusivity either.

    No religion is a path to the LORD. God saves, not religion, and He could care less about the human factor.
    do you you speak to many of the 3 great Christians faiths, maybe this is the reason why you have not.

    I have and this is why I like this topic.

    the teachings is the focus not the people(congregation)

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    2 Peter 3:18
    But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


    the Lord said grow in Grace and knowledge

    most of us grew up in faith of our parents and some have come out of our parents faith.

    our parents faith were based on the 3 great christian belief

    and some point we grew in knowledge.

    why?

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    the Lord had this written for a reason and these people believed in Jesus, they thought they were christians.


    Matthew 7

    21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    believing and confessing Jesus is not enough as some of the great faiths teach.

    why did the Lord put this verse here?

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