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    Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    There are a lot of people who believe that natural disasters occur in the United States when U.S. pesidents pressure Israel to give up land. Here is one website that lists the natural disasters that have occured when United States presidents have pressured Israel to give up land.

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/na...arming-israel/


    I have my doubts that there is any truth to this. However there have actually been quite a few things happening in the past when our presidents have pressured Israel to give up land. Now Obama is pressuring Israel to give up more land than any of his predecessors. I would say that if something serious happens in the next week, there might be some truth to this theory. Likewise if nothing at all happens in the next week, this theory would be proven bogus. Am I right in my thinking here?

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    I have seen that before too. I googled some and found this web site that claims to dig into "eRumors" and try to get to the bottom of them.

    Truth or Fiction

    Summary of the eRumor
    - A list of ten dates on which there important events related to Israel along with natural disasters affecting the United States. The implication is that the U.S. had better pay attention to decisions about Israel...or else.
    bullet The Truth
    - The historical accounts in this eRumor are, for the most part, accurate. What is left is the question of what do they mean? Believers in the email's message say it means that if the U.S. wants to avoid natural disasters...be nice to Israel. Skeptics say that going through all the events in a particular span of years and finding apparent correlations doesn't mean they were connected.
    I tried to find more current event things but have not really found anything .....yet...lol

    I heard one about Katrina, not sure that one is on the list, but if not, I don't remember the details enough, but still digging around.




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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    Quote Originally Posted by quiet dove View Post
    I have seen that before too. I googled some and found this web site that claims to dig into "eRumors" and try to get to the bottom of them.

    I tried to find more current event things but have not really found anything .....yet...lol

    I heard one about Katrina, not sure that one is on the list, but if not, I don't remember the details enough, but still digging around.

    Katrina is on the list on that website. Katrina happened right after Jewish settlers were forced to leave the Gaza strip.

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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    Interesting theory
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    If it is from God then maybe these disasters ought to hit the white house not regular peoples...but no matter GOD IS just and knows what he is doing
    The story of Job teaches us that the Devil has to be given permission to attack us. So if God is allowing the attack surely He's planning our victory. He would not allow us to be in a battle we could not win.! God looks for hand-picked people He can send into difficult environments, that He might be glorified. He makes all things "work together for good" (Ro 8:28) so don't be intimidated. Just keep your eyes open and see what God is up to!

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    Since obama has been in office did the disasters begin
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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    This is ridiculous and it's embarrassing that Christians could believe something so stupid. Aside from the fact that modern Israel is just a nation among many, natural disasters are just that - natural; and they've been happening for as long as the earth has been spinning.

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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrckBrln View Post
    This is ridiculous and it's embarrassing that Christians could believe something so stupid. Aside from the fact that modern Israel is just a nation among many, natural disasters are just that - natural; and they've been happening for as long as the earth has been spinning.
    More like having fun with it, which we can unless you can show us the scripture on being a kill joy, kill joy.
    If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrckBrln View Post
    This is ridiculous and it's embarrassing that Christians could believe something so stupid. Aside from the fact that modern Israel is just a nation among many, natural disasters are just that - natural; and they've been happening for as long as the earth has been spinning.
    One could say that it's ridiculous and embarrassing that Christians believe that God is completely disconnected from all natural disasters. Pseudo-agnostic rationalism from Christians that should know better tends to embarrass me, particularly when non-Christians look at tsunamis and earthquakes and wonder about the hand of God because, well, it's obvious to them that something's up. Either way, "ridiculous" and "embarrassing" seem to be over-the-top, overly dramatic statements about events that one can't have 100% certainty about either way.
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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    Quote Originally Posted by the rookie View Post
    One could say that it's ridiculous and embarrassing that Christians believe that God is completely disconnected from all natural disasters. Pseudo-agnostic rationalism from Christians that should know better tends to embarrass me, particularly when non-Christians look at tsunamis and earthquakes and wonder about the hand of God because, well, it's obvious to them that something's up. Either way, "ridiculous" and "embarrassing" seem to be over-the-top, overly dramatic statements about events that one can't have 100% certainty about either way.
    It's only ever "overly dramatic" when people can't see the correlation or decide to fact check. But its high-fives and firm hand-shakes all around when someone declares authoritatively that Haitian earthquakes are a result of supposed secret devil pacts from generations ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisLeast View Post
    It's only ever "overly dramatic" when people can't see the correlation or decide to fact check. But its high-fives and firm hand-shakes all around when someone declares authoritatively that Haitian earthquakes are a result of supposed secret devil pacts from generations ago.
    I'd call that an overstatement. Lots of folks didn't agree with that sentiment and I sure didn't see lots of "handshakes and high-fives" over it. My point is that we're working with 5% of the information - so definitive statements (either that could only be of God or it's "embarrassing" to say that it was) seem out of line with what the Bible describes (God acting through nature, thus discounting the possibility that it "can't" be divine in origin) or what the Bible depicts (God warning through the prophetic, not human opinion after the fact).
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    Twelve is the number of government. Thus, it is quite apropos that I am on my way towards wielding the power of twelve bars - each bar like, say, a tribe.....or a star.....or, maybe an apostle. A blue apostle. Like apostle smurfs. Does anyone remember smurfs? And all the controversy about them being from the devil? It's probably bad that I juxtaposed "apostle" and "smurf" in the same sentence. But then, I probably lost you at "blue apostle". Yes, my friends, this is what "rare jewel of a person" is actually implying. "Rare Jewel of a Person" really means, "Potentially Insane".

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    It is ridiculous to blame these other presidents. They had nothing to do with it.
    It's ALL Bushes fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awestruckchild View Post
    It is ridiculous to blame these other presidents. They had nothing to do with it.
    It's ALL Bushes fault.
    Problem solved......





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    Quote Originally Posted by quiet dove View Post
    Problem solved......

    It isn't solved!!!
    He keeps DOING it!!!
    If anything, he's done more damage since he LEFT office!!!
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    Re: Natural disasters and U.S. presidents pressuring Israel to give up land.

    Quote Originally Posted by awestruckchild View Post
    It isn't solved!!!
    He keeps DOING it!!!
    If anything, he's done more damage since he LEFT office!!!
    I'm sorry, it was the way you said it, I meant not harm. I was just playing, your right, it's a mess and no where near solved.




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