The Law and the Prophets

[RockSolid]

I touched on this in another thread,but decided to make a new post so I could expound on the topic for discussion.
I believe everyone would agree that Christ came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets. The reason is because that's what He said He came to do.
Matt5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

1.What are the Law and the Prophets? The Law is the books of Moses, the Prophets is everything else.
Acts28:23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them,testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.
Acts24:14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call asect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets,

Paul read from the Law and the Prophets.
Acts13:15 After the reading from the Law and the Prophets, the rulers of the synagogue sent a message to them, saying, “Brothers, if you have any word of encouragement for the people, say it.”

2.The Law and the Prophets prophesied about Christ.
Luke24:44 Thenhe said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

We know how the Prophets prophesied about Christ, so I will not list any to shorten the amount of reading. How did the Law prophesy about Christ? Here are a few of many examples.
The sacrificial system that Moses instituted predicted His death.
He was born during the feast of Tabernacles, died at passover.
Day of Atonement. (Leviticus 16) prophesied about Christ. (EDIT: edited for two possible interpretations to Leviticus 16 as made known by Eccl12:13 in post #4)

3. When Christ came, He fulfilled the Law and the Prophets because that's what He said He came to do. Christ also gave us other criteria that had to be met when the Law and the Prophets were fulfilled.
The first criteria- Jerusalem and the Temple had to be destroyed before all of the Law and the Prophets were fulfilled.
Luke21:5 And while some were speaking of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings, he said,
Luke21:6 “As for these things that you see, the days will come when there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”
Luke21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near.
Luke21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those whoare inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it,
Luke21:22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

“All that is written” in what? The Law and the Prophets.
Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed in 70AD just like Christ, the Law, and the Prophets said it would be.

The second criteria- The “heavens and earth” had to pass away before the Law and the Prophets were fulfilled.
Matt 5:18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota,not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
If the “heavens and earth” have not yet passed away, then Christ has not yet fulfilled the Law and the Prophets.
Christ said His mission was to fulfill the Law and the Prophets but the physical universe is still here. The earth and the universe have not passed away. Did Christ not fulfill the Law and the Prophets? Did Christ lie about what He came to do? Was He mistaken? Was it harder than He thought it would be and He has to fulfill it all later?

Throughout the Old Testament "heaven and earth" were synonymous with the old law, the old system, the old government. He didn't mean the literal earth and universe.
Examples,
Isa51:16 ​​​​​​​​And I have put my words in your mouth and covered you in the shadow of my hand, establishing the heavens and laying the foundations of the earth, and saying to Zion, ‘You are my people.’”

Isaiah isn't speaking of the creation of the universe here. The old law, the old system, Israel's government was established and Zion was made His people.

Deut4:26 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that you will soon utterly perish from the land that you are going over the Jordan to possess. You will not live long in it, but will be utterly destroyed.
Was He calling the literal universe to witness against them? No, the old law would be the witness against them.
Deut31:26 “Take this Book of the Law and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.

Isa51:6​​​​​​​​Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look at the earth beneath; for the heavens vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment, and they who dwell in it will die in like manner; but my salvation will be forever, and my righteousness will never be dismayed.
Isaiah isn't speaking of the destruction of the universe. He is prophesying that the old law, the old government was going to pass away and they who dwell in it will die, but His salvation is forever.
Heb8:13In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
It was obsolete and ready to vanish away in the mid-60's AD when Hebrews was written. It vanished completely a few years later in 70AD with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple.

Deut30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life,that you and your offspring may live,
Did the physical laws of the universe witness against them? No, the old law/government would be the witness.

The third criteria- Heaven and earth (the old law, system, government) had to pass away before the generation Christ was speaking to would pass away.
Matt 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
Matt24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

4. It was all fully accomplished by 70AD when all of Christs' criteria were met.
Old Jerusalem was destroyed and replaced by New Jerusalem.
The old temple was destroyed and was replaced by the new Temple, Christ.
The old government was destroyed and replaced by Christs' government.
The old heavens and earth passed away and was replaced with the new heavens and earth.
And it all happened within that generation.

Eusebius explains it well,

EUSEBIUS Bishop of Caesarea (c. 265 - 340) Extract from the 'Theophania' :
"All authorities concur in the declaration that "when all these things should have been done" "The End" should come : that "the mystery of God should be finished as he had declared to His servants the prophets" : it should be completed : time should now be no more : the End of all things (so foretold) should be at hand, and be fully brought to pass : in these days should be fulfilled all that had been spoken of Christ (and of His church) by the prophets : or, in other words, when the gospel should have been preached in all the world for a testimony to all nations, and the power of the Holy People be scattered (abroad), then should the End come, then should all these things be finished. I need now only say, all these things have been done : the old and elementary system passed away with a great noise; all these predicted empires have actually fallen, and the new kingdom, the new heaven and earth, the new Jerusalem--all of which were to descend from God, to be formed by His power, have been realised on earth ; all these things have been done in the sight of all the nations ; God's holy arm has been made bare in their sight: His judgments have prevailed, and they remain for an everlasting testimony to the whole world. His kingdom has come, as it was foretold it should, and His will has, so far, been done; His purposes have been finished; and, from that day to the extreme end of time, it will be the duty, as indeed it will be the great privilege of the Church, to gather into its bosom the Jew, the Greek, the Scythian, the Barbarian, bond and free; and to do this as the Apostles did in their days--in obedience, faith and hope.'

[Beckrl]

Great thread.

Day of Atonement. (Leviticus 16)Two goats, one for the Lord, one for Azazel. One sacrificed as a sin offering, the other the blame of the sins were placed upon and banished to the wilderness. Christ was the "goat" that was sacrificed as a sin offering, the blame of sin was placed on the second goat (Satan) and he was banished to the wilderness.

You may wanted to expound on this even further and I especially like the quote from Eusebius, again great job.

[Eccl 12:13]

So are you trying to say that ALL of this quote has been fulfilled?

Luke 24
[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Please understand what is being said above;

ALL things written, from Gen. to Mal., MUST happen concerning the Messiah....ALL tihngs!

So again....are you trying to say that ALL things written about Jesus Christ, from Gen. to Mal. have already taken place? All of the events talking about Jesus Christ in the OT have occured?

Tell me.....has THIS event happened concerning Jesus Christ yet?

Gen.49
[8] Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
[9] Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
[10] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
[11] Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
[12] His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.


And this is just the FIRST book of the bible talking about Jesus.




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[Eccl 12:13]

Day of Atonement. (Leviticus 16)Two goats, one for the Lord, one for Azazel. One sacrificed as a sin offering, the other the blame of the sins were placed upon and banished to the wilderness. Christ was the "goat" that was sacrificed as a sin offering, the blame of sin was placed on the second goat (Satan) and he was banished to the wilderness.

Just so we are on the same page...are you attempting to say that the scapegoat, the goat that God said is to be the goat for atonement represents SATAN? Really? Let's read what the LIVE goat, the "scapegoat", represented and use God's word to see if your claim is supported by scripture. Let's read if it represents (SATAN);

Lev.16
[10] But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

So the 'live' goat, the 'scapegoat' was to be used as an atonement with the LORD! Now let's look up the word atonement;

Atonement:
1. compensation for a wrong
2. the act of delivering from sin or saving from evil
3. something done or paid in expiation of a wrong

Still want to go with (Satan) on this one?

Now let's read what was done with the live goat, the scapegoat, that YOU claim represents (Satan);

[20] And when he hath made an end of reconciling the holy place, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat:
[21] And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
[22] And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.

So ALL of the sins and transgressions of the congregation, NOT JUST ISRAEL, was placed upon the live goat. So the live goat, the 'scapegoat', bear ALL of the "iniquities" of the people.

The "...blame of sin..." was NOT placed on the scapegoat; it was SIN, ALL SIN, TRANSGRESSIONS AND INIQUITIES that the scapegoat bear.

Let's read what "person" also did the same...

Isa.53
[4] Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
[5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
[6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

This sounds just like what the "scapegoat" did. Let's read more...

[10] Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
[11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Jer.33
[8] And I will cleanse them from all their iniquity, whereby they have sinned against me; and I will pardon all their iniquities, whereby they have sinned, and whereby they have transgressed against me.

Heb.8
[12] For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.


And WHO was it that made His soul, "...an offering for sin...", "...bear their iniquities...", "...pardon all their iniquities..." and said, "...their iniquities will I remember no more..."?

Jesus Christ! The Sacrificed goat represented Jesus AND the scapegoat represented Jesus.

But you would have some to believe that the "scapegoat" represents SATAN?

Be careful what you preach.

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[RockSolid]

It is true that there are two interpretations to the identity of the scapegoat, however that is not the purpose of this thread. The proponents of the scapegoat being Satan say that the lots fell, one for the Lord, the other for Azazel. The Azazel goat did not belong to the Lord since the lot did not fall it's way.
The interpretation of the scapegoat being Christ is explained in the post above. Leviticus 16 is something I am willing to change my mind about when studying it more in depth. I should have put both interpretations in the original thread or just left out the interpretation and simply put "The Day of Atonement (Leviticus 16) prophesied about Christ". I can't debate you with the "Christ is the scapegoat" interpretation of Leviticus 16 since it may well be the correct interpretation. Either way, it was fulfilled by Christ.

[RockSolid]

So are you trying to say that ALL of this quote has been fulfilled?

Luke 24
[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Please understand what is being said above;

ALL things written, from Gen. to Mal., MUST happen concerning the Messiah....ALL tihngs!

So again....are you trying to say that ALL things written about Jesus Christ, from Gen. to Mal. have already taken place? All of the events talking about Jesus Christ in the OT have occured?

Tell me.....has THIS event happened concerning Jesus Christ yet?

Gen.49
[8] Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
[9] Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
[10] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
[11] Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
[12] His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.


And this is just the FIRST book of the bible talking about Jesus.




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It was fulfilled twice, once by David and once by Christ (the second David), both from the tribe of Judah.
Are you saying that Christ has not yet fulfilled the Law and the Prophets? Christ came to fulfill them but He didn't fulfill them when He came?

[Eccl 12:13]

[QUOTE=RockSolid;2691005]

It was fulfilled twice, once by David and once by Christ (the second David), both from the tribe of Judah.

Gen.49
[9] Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

Jesus has not returned as a lion.

"And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." Rev.5:5


[10] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Jesus has not gathered the people.

"Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock." Jer.31:10

[11] Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

Jesus clothes has not been washed in blood.

"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Rev.19:13

Are you saying that Christ has not yet fulfilled the Law and the Prophets? Christ came to fulfill them but He didn't fulfill them when He came?

I'm not saying it....God's word tells us so. Let's read it again...

Luke 24
[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

There are MANY events spoken of by the prophets, that Jesus has yet to complete. HE said ALL things must be fulfilled concerning Him that were spoken by the prophets....I am not saying it. Let's read just a few...

Isa.66
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
[18] For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

Jer.23
[3] And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
[4] And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
[5] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
[6] In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Zech.14
[1] Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
[2] For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
[16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

All of these events were spoken by the prophets concerning Jesus, but NOT ONE of them did Jesus complete when He came in the flesh to die for our sins.

[RockSolid]

All of these events were spoken by the prophets concerning Jesus, but NOT ONE of them did Jesus complete when He came in the flesh to die for our sins.

Maybe not to a futurist or dispensationalist. I am preterist and believe that Christ accomplished what He said He came to do.

[Beckrl]

Gen.49
[9] Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

Jesus has not returned as a lion.

"And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." Rev.5:5


[10] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Jesus has not gathered the people.

"Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock." Jer.31:10

The gathering of the children of Israel. Why do you think that's not happen? Lets review Isaiah 11:10-12 the garthering together of Israel from the four corners. I know many relate this to the Messiah's kingdom and indeed it is, but it happen on penetcost Acts 2:1-13. Where those from every nation under heaven heard and saw the great works of God and many believed. Peter said, for the promise is unto you and to your children and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call Acts 2:39.

The lion of Judah represents that's tribes insign or flag. It is designated to the root of Jesse of which Jesus comes out of the family of David. In that day a banner will stand for the people/nations/gentiles. The gospel has gathered all nations unto Christ.
In Revelation we have the Lion and the Lamb pictured as the same. When Christ went to the cross to bear all sins he was able to open the seals in this act he gathers all nations unto him.

[11] Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

Jesus clothes has not been washed in blood.

"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Rev.19:13




I'm not saying it....God's word tells us so. Let's read it again...

Luke 24
[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

There are MANY events spoken of by the prophets, that Jesus has yet to complete. HE said ALL things must be fulfilled concerning Him that were spoken by the prophets....I am not saying it. Let's read just a few...

Isa.66
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
[18] For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

Let look back to verse 8 which speaks about a nation being born at once. It speaks of Jerusalem being with child and bring forth a nation in one day. How can that be? First before her pain she shall bring forth a man child. Jesus spoke of this very same thing in Matthew 24:8 the begnning of sorrows or as some translate 'brith pains' therefore the revelation of this child is the children of God being born from the pains of Jerusalem destruction. Which Jesus goes on to give details about. So as you can see this gathering together of the outcast of Israel begun at penetcost and continued until the city of Jerusalem was destoryed. Therfore what remained was the nation of God.

Jer.23
[3] And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
[4] And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
[5] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
[6] In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Zech.14
[1] Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
[2] For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
[16] And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

All of these events were spoken by the prophets concerning Jesus, but NOT ONE of them did Jesus complete when He came in the flesh to die for our sins.

Again the same...

[irishfig]

No all has not happened yet. For example the backsliding in Christ must return. And the gospel has Not gone into the whole world
Although we are close. With tv and internet the gospel can go into places some can't go. I am a prophet.and there are many that are dreaming dreams and speaking the word of God with authority. Too many have to either come back.to God or be saved. So we are close but it isn't yet. the prophetic has not been completed yet. The bible is actually a Lig book. it is alive
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the book is not over yet.

[LandShark]

1.What are the Law and the Prophets? The Law is the books of Moses, the Prophets is everything else.

I would take issue with this statement RS, respectfully of course. In the first century, "Scripture" was the Torah (The law, the first 5 books of our bibles) and the Prophets, the Psalms were also more or less considered Scripture yet was more a book of worship. The Writings, like Proverbs, 1st and 2nd Chronicles, Ruth, even Daniel oddly, and others... were not canonized until 90AD. What we call the "OT," has been called "The Tanak" since 90AD. The T, N, and K stand for Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim... the Law, Prophets, and Writings. So even though great weight was placed on the Writings, just as great weight was placed on Paul's letters or Matthew's gospel.... Jesus speaking about "The law and the Prophets" is a reference to what was "Scripture" in his day.

[RockSolid]

No all has not happened yet. For example the backsliding in Christ must return. And the gospel has Not gone into the whole world
Although we are close. With tv and internet the gospel can go into places some can't go.

Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

The "world" in this instance, doesn't mean "the entire planet".
The greek word is oikoumene; basically the Roman Empire and/or it's subjects. Examples,

1. Luke 2:1 In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

The entire planet wasn't registered. It was a local registration that included the Roman Empire, but not countries such as Imperial China.

2. Acts 11:28 And one of them named Agabus stood up and foretold by the Spirit that there would be a great famine over all the world (this took place in the days of Claudius.)

A global famine would have been recorded in history by the various civilizations.

3. Acts 17:6 And when they could not find them, they dragged Jason and some of the brothers before the city authorities, shouting, “These men who have turned the world upside down have come here also,

The Roman Empire was steadily being turned upside down by the Christians.

4. Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
This was to supposed happen before that generation passed away.
Matt 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

Was the gospel proclaimed to the entire planet? Maybe, mabye not. Was it proclaimed to the entire "world" or oikoumene before that generation passed away? According to Paul, yes.
Rom 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is proclaimed in all the world.

Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
Rom 10:18 But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for “Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.”

Col 1:5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel,
Col 1:6 which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and growing-as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth,

[RockSolid]

I would take issue with this statement RS, respectfully of course. In the first century, "Scripture" was the Torah (The law, the first 5 books of our bibles) and the Prophets, the Psalms were also more or less considered Scripture yet was more a book of worship. The Writings, like Proverbs, 1st and 2nd Chronicles, Ruth, even Daniel oddly, and others... were not canonized until 90AD. What we call the "OT," has been called "The Tanak" since 90AD. The T, N, and K stand for Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim... the Law, Prophets, and Writings. So even though great weight was placed on the Writings, just as great weight was placed on Paul's letters or Matthew's gospel.... Jesus speaking about "The law and the Prophets" is a reference to what was "Scripture" in his day.

Thanks for this contribution, LS.