The Beast Rising

[Saved7]

This news article pretty well explains the unification of the Islamic middle east is drawing closer.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/June04/0464.html

[Hunter121]

Everywhere nowadays are you hearing more and more words like this, that the world is drawing closer and closer to the end.

[DurbanDude]

This news article pretty well explains the unification of the Islamic middle east is drawing closer.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/June04/0464.html

That was a very well written article. Its a pleasure to read a prophecy or conspiracy website where they seem to have an accurate take on the situation. I have been saying for years on this site that I expect a Turkish revival in power. I know the power of the Jews in the EU and the US, and the fact that the EU/US is also dominating the Middle East froma military perspective at the same time as the Turks are increasing in power in the region. I believe the bible indicates a 3 way power sharing between the 3 great ancient cities, and the 3 great religions, Rome/Istanbul/Jerusalem or RCC/Islam/Judaism


Here is a bible study that I did on the prophesied inter-relationships between the 3 cities:
http://bibleforums.org/showthread.ph...el-Rome-Turkey

[Saved7]

Yeah Durban, that website is actually a pretty good website, much of the stuff they post is from other news sources, with a Christian perspective.

Someone posted a long time ago that the statue in Daniel was actually about the "Bablyon/the world" and not Israel. Meaning the nation that the head represented was Babylon, therefore, the head also representing the body, and each govt after Babylon that was in that statue also ruled Babylon for a time, but not all ruled Israel. And the govts that ruled over Israel wasn't the important issue, but it was the govts that ruled over Babylon, from whence came all false religions. And Rome never ruled Babylon, but the ottoman empire did and eventually it had a hold on Jerusalem. And we can see by Revelation that the concern or better said "judgement" is focused "Babylon" or the "world" not just Israel, so that interpretation of Daniel's statue made more sense to me.

[DurbanDude]

Yeah Durban, that website is actually a pretty good website, much of the stuff they post is from other news sources, with a Christian perspective.

Someone posted a long time ago that the statue in Daniel was actually about the "Bablyon/the world" and not Israel. Meaning the nation that the head represented was Babylon, therefore, the head also representing the body, and each govt after Babylon that was in that statue also ruled Babylon for a time, but not all ruled Israel. And the govts that ruled over Israel wasn't the important issue, but it was the govts that ruled over Babylon, from whence came all false religions. And Rome never ruled Babylon, but the ottoman empire did and eventually it had a hold on Jerusalem. And we can see by Revelation that the concern or better said "judgement" is focused "Babylon" or the "world" not just Israel, so that interpretation of Daniel's statue made more sense to me.

I hear you, but have you ever thought that the Ottoman Empire is Rome?

Daniel 2 says that the Fourth Empire would divide and each half of that empire would survive until Jesus comes and all four of those kingdoms would be destroyed together. The Roman Empire did divide into 2, Rome and Constantinople. When the Ottomans took over the Byzantium Empire they did so from a base WITHIN the Byzantium Empire, and the leader continued to call himself Caesar, so there is a strong argument for the Ottoman Empire as merely a continuation of the Byzantium Empire, and as such is the Eastern half of the Roman Empire from a biblical perspective.

So yes, the Ottomans controlled Babylon, but this was just one half of the Roman Empire, and as such the Ottoman's fulfilled the 4th empire of Rome controlling Babylon.

[Saved7]

I hear you, but have you ever thought that the Ottoman Empire is Rome?

Daniel 2 says that the Fourth Empire would divide and each half of that empire would survive until Jesus comes and all four of those kingdoms would be destroyed together. The Roman Empire did divide into 2, Rome and Constantinople. When the Ottomans took over the Byzantium Empire they did so from a base WITHIN the Byzantium Empire, and the leader continued to call himself Caesar, so there is a strong argument for the Ottoman Empire as merely a continuation of the Byzantium Empire, and as such is the Eastern half of the Roman Empire from a biblical perspective.

So yes, the Ottomans controlled Babylon, but this was just one half of the Roman Empire, and as such the Ottoman's fulfilled the 4th empire of Rome controlling Babylon.

Good points, I heard that the Ottoman Empire had divided as well, could just be a faulty memory though.

[shootingdead]

This news article pretty well explains the unification of the Islamic middle east is drawing closer.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/June04/0464.html

Here is a bible study that I did on the prophesied inter-relationships between the 3 cities:

http://bibleforums.org/showthread.ph...el-Rome-Turkey

very interesting, thank you. seems to make a lot of sense.

[shootingdead]

Everywhere nowadays are you hearing more and more words like this, that the world is drawing closer and closer to the end.

Matthew 24:32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

could it be that 'this generation' is the generation that sees all these things?

[Tonyzzz7]

Islam is antichrist.
Mohammed is the false prophet of revelation.

[RevLogos]

This news article pretty well explains the unification of the Islamic middle east is drawing closer.

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2011/June04/0464.html

I disagree with the conclusions regarding Turkey. If they do become an Islamic theocracy, they will quickly find themselves as dysfunctional as Pakistan. To the extent they are a "thriving economy" with a "proven track record" is precisely because they have been a secular nation, thanks to Kemal Ataturk.

I also think there is too much hatred between the Shia and the Sunni. Each considers the other apostate, which in Islam leads to bloodshed. The only thing they hate more than each other is Israel. Iran wants to create a Middle Eastern Shia hegemony, which will be offset by Saudi Arabia getting the Bomb as soon as Iran does (by buying it from Pakistan). And take a look at this so-called "Arab Spring". Do you see any democracies developing out of this?

The only thing I can see that would unite Islam under one banner would be the Antichrist, But he (if he exists) would also unite much of the world including Islam, under the banner of a new one-world religion.