Atheists angry over sign honoring sept 11 firefighters

[EarlyCall]

Because they're not at a gagillion council meetings? If they were, I'd be with you but not spending their days at city council meetings seems pretty normal to me, heh.

But why oh why do they bother with it at all?

[Warrior4God]

Because they're not at a gagillion council meetings? If they were, I'd be with you but not spending their days at city council meetings seems pretty normal to me, heh.

No. Because they get on my nerves with their constant God-bashing.

[Gilligan]

What ever happened to everyone saying "Pray for America" and "God Bless America".

[Cornflake]

What ever happened to everyone saying "Pray for America" and "God Bless America".

I don't think that's ever been the case in this country.

[Gilligan]

I don't think that's ever been the case in this country.

Immediately after 9/11, that's about all I heard, that and everyone displaying flags.

[BrianW]

They'd have gotten the same publicity if they started this when it was proposed, I think they just didn't notice. It's not like there are athiests trolling every one of however many dozens and dozens and dozens of city council meetings there are a year to check.

NYC Atheist are an organization with members and an agenda and they survive off of.......donations. Why complain during a board meeting where a vote will be taken and they will most likely be outvoted eh?

Much better to wait until afterwards when they can raise a stink, get publicity and possibly garner donations for the cause.

Pure speculation on my part about their motivations and actions but, really, it's how these things usually go down isn't it?

[Cornflake]

Immediately after 9/11, that's about all I heard, that and everyone displaying flags.

I remember a friend of mine in Indiana telling me how after 9-11 she heard that 'Proud to be an American' song allll the time, that now the song sortof meant 9-11 to her because it was everyplace and played so often. I think she'd say the same about what you said. Neither was the case in or near New York. What was on the radio alll the time right after, was 'Imagine' by John Lennon, not the other song.

NYC Atheist are an organization with members and an agenda and they survive off of.......donations. Why complain during a board meeting where a vote will be taken and they will most likely be outvoted eh?

Much better to wait until afterwards when they can raise a stink, get publicity and possibly garner donations for the cause.

Pure speculation on my part about their motivations and actions but, really, it's how these things usually go down isn't it?

They could have raised a stink then, is what I'm saying. There's time before board meetings happen - the really controversial things have meetings set up just so the public can come discuss stuff, then there's voting on stuff at later meetings. If they'd known it was going to happen, I'd think they'd have made a brouhaha beforehand and argued at the board meetings and had cameras there and other people and etc., and they could have voted later on. It could be your scenario, I just don't think mine is particularly less likely.

[Gilligan]

I think it's dangerous for atheists to trifle with God in light of 9/11, Katrina, and the tornadoes. If all of these combined would be equivelant to five minutes in the corner, I would not want to imagine what it will be like when God brings a "baby stallion" (24 hours in the corner) on America.

[Warrior4God]

On the one hand, I pity atheists for their self induced deception in trying to convince themselves, and others, that there is no God because God's wrath awaits them if there is no repentance. On the other hand, their constant ridiculing and mocking of Christians and God annoys me to no end.

[BrianW]

Jesus Himself was ridiculed and mocked. Why should we who call Him master be treated any differently? It should be expected really. Doesn't make it right. It's just the way it is.

Those who live in darkness hate the light.

[Warrior4God]

Jesus Himself was ridiculed and mocked. Why should we who call Him master be treated any differently? It should be expected really. Doesn't make it right. It's just the way it is.

Those who live in darkness hate the light.

Oh, I understand that Christians will be treated like garbage for their beliefs. I know that Jesus warned us of this reality. That knowledge doesn't suddenly make it all ok with me, however. I know I shouldn't care about the mocking and ridiculing, and sometimes I do shrug it off. But sometimes it still gets to me.

[BrianW]

It gets to me too sometimes brother. That's when I pray for those who persecute us.

[Gilligan]

Oh, I understand that Christians will be treated like garbage for their beliefs. I know that Jesus warned us of this reality. That knowledge doesn't suddenly make it all ok with me, however. I know I shouldn't care about the mocking and ridiculing, and sometimes I do shrug it off. But sometimes it still gets to me.

I sometimes have wanted atheists to get a spooky sunvisor. That might make other ones think twice about trifling with us, acting as a deterrant.