Carbon tax

[bdh]

Seems as if every country on the planet is in the process of implementing this. I think it's a terrible idea. And what about the carbon police force?

What do you say?

[Fenris]

I see people working very hard to make mankind less productive.

[keck553]

I see people working very hard to make mankind less productive.

Not to mention economic slavery.

[Bandit]

I see people working very hard to make mankind less productive.

It is a Fenris sighting! Rarer than bigfoot! (So, it took a poll on "carbon police" to get you out of hiding?)

[bdh]

So far I don't see anyone thinking it's a good thing. My question is therefore, how is this sliding through governments, congress, parliaments etc around the globe and becoming legislation without so much as a whimper from the voting public? Are we so passive? ... like lambs to the slaughter? As I see it, this is going to change life for everyone by essentially putting a tax on the very air we breath and on life itself. How did it get this far so fast?

I read through parts of the act and it has draconian statements like "can seize private property..." and "if found guilty, will be unlawfully residing in [your own] home .." This is very serious stuff.

[keck553]

About the same way the Nurenburg laws did...

[Bandit]

So far I don't see anyone thinking it's a good thing. My question is therefore, how is this sliding through governments, congress, parliaments etc around the globe and becoming legislation without so much as a whimper from the voting public? ... This is very serious stuff.

Yes, it is very serious. But most people do not understand that the earth is of fairly recent origin (a few thousand years). And the melting of the polar caps is a natural outcome of a fairly recent event like Noah's flood (if you accept such things). But because they (most of the world) is willfully ignorant of such things, they will draw whatever conclusions suit them. Rather than submit to God, they draw their own conclusions.

[Diggindeeper]

So far I don't see anyone thinking it's a good thing. My question is therefore, how is this sliding through governments, congress, parliaments etc around the globe and becoming legislation without so much as a whimper from the voting public? Are we so passive? ... like lambs to the slaughter? As I see it, this is going to change life for everyone by essentially putting a tax on the very air we breath and on life itself. How did it get this far so fast?

I read through parts of the act and it has draconian statements like "can seize private property..." and "if found guilty, will be unlawfully residing in [your own] home .." This is very serious stuff.

Things like this are passed without giving the people a chance to vote. Those who are in authority, such as the lawmakers of our land, just pass whatever they want to, without offering the people a say-do one way or the other.

The same thing happened with out 'light bulb' legislation! Now some are saying the kind we will eventually be REQUIRED to burn may cost $59, $75 or more EACH!

I hate what America has become. And as America goes, so goes the rest of the world! But, we can't vote on anything until it is put on the ballot to be voted on. Meanwhile, they just go on and on, passing all kinds of ludicrous mandates! And, rest assured, some ARE going to get wealthy by all this. And it sure ain't you or me!

[Hunter121]

What's carbon tax?

[IMINXTC]

If the idea is to ultimately lower carbon in the atmosphere it would have to be universal to work. In this case, industrial powerhouses like China will continue to spue and profit while others go deeper and deeper into carbon debt.

Another economic tyrranny that should have little over-all affect on the atmosphere.

Most poorer nations have no resources other than coal, and that is often imported at great expense.

I know; I watch NOVA.

[bdh]

Things like this are passed without giving the people a chance to vote.

People? What about the policy makers!? They weren't even allowed time to read the most important 300 pages of the Bill before it had to be voted on. Surely something is wrong.

In Rep John Boehner own words from the clip: "... the most profound piece of legislation to come to this floor in 100 years ... and the Chairman has the audacity to drop a 300 plus page amendment in the hopper at 3.09 am this morning..."

What craziness is this!

Here is the actual footage:

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[bdh]

industrial powerhouses like China will continue to spue and profit while others go deeper and deeper into carbon debt.

Precisely! What a wonderful idea. Lets bleed every Western nation dry until they collapse. Brilliant idea. It will save the world for sure.

How can people buy into this??

[tango]

So far I don't see anyone thinking it's a good thing. My question is therefore, how is this sliding through governments, congress, parliaments etc around the globe and becoming legislation without so much as a whimper from the voting public? Are we so passive? ... like lambs to the slaughter? As I see it, this is going to change life for everyone by essentially putting a tax on the very air we breath and on life itself. How did it get this far so fast?

I read through parts of the act and it has draconian statements like "can seize private property..." and "if found guilty, will be unlawfully residing in [your own] home .." This is very serious stuff.

If we're lucky we might get a referendum where we can vote on stupid legislation. And if we return the wrong answer we'll have another referendum, and another, and another, until we get the right answer. Then the decision is final and binding. There's never a referendum to undo this kind of thing once the politicians get the answer they wanted.

[bdh]

Been wondering what this is all going to cost the average household. From an article on the cage they estimate around $900 more per household per year. BUT ... that is only if the tax is calculated at $25-$30 / ton of carbon. It's pretty clear the intent is to settle at a figure of $50 or even $60 / ton eventually.

Cost to you: $2,000 / year extra on just living. Nice.

[bdh]

What's carbon tax?

This should help http://www.nocarbontax.com.au/what-is-the-cprs/