Your Advert here
cure-real
Page 1 of 13 123456789101112 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 186

Thread: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Bakersfield, CA
    Posts
    3,061
    Blog Entries
    1

    Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    If a man was guilty of breaking only one tenet of law, he is guilty of violating the ENTIRE law.

    I have a question -- Say a man, under the law, was guilty of adultery, and had to bring a sacrifice to atone for his sin. If the man was guilty of violating the ENTIRE law, then why did he not have to bring sacrifices to atone for EVERY transgression accounted for by the law, such a murder, robbery, etc.?!

    What is the ENTIRE law of God....Is it just a compilation of each and every law put forth in the Torah, or is there something deeper at work here?!

    I would think that if a man was guilty of violating every single tenet of the law, then he would have to bring a sacrifice to atone for every single tenet.

    Maybe I'm just confusing the matter -- but the law does discriinate between different sacrifices offered up for different sins.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    L.A .
    Posts
    338

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Equipped_4_Love View Post
    If a man was guilty of breaking only one tenet of law, he is guilty of violating the ENTIRE law.

    I have a question -- Say a man, under the law, was guilty of adultery, and had to bring a sacrifice to atone for his sin. If the man was guilty of violating the ENTIRE law, then why did he not have to bring sacrifices to atone for EVERY transgression accounted for by the law, such a murder, robbery, etc.?!

    What is the ENTIRE law of God....Is it just a compilation of each and every law put forth in the Torah, or is there something deeper at work here?!

    I would think that if a man was guilty of violating every single tenet of the law, then he would have to bring a sacrifice to atone for every single tenet.

    Maybe I'm just confusing the matter -- but the law does discriinate between different sacrifices offered up for different sins.

    Hi , and not all sin could a sin offering help , like if a person committed adultery , the woman was stoned , or in a manslaughter , the other family could seek revenge without reprisal , or if , with 2 ot 3 witness , anyone saying amiss about the Law of Moses was also stoned , dan p

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Bakersfield, CA
    Posts
    3,061
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Thanks Dan.....You're right. I guess I was just using that as an analogy. Bad choice!!

    I think you get my point, though

  4. #4

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Equipped_4_Love View Post

    I have a question -- Say a man, under the law, was guilty of adultery, and had to bring a sacrifice to atone for his sin. If the man was guilty of violating the ENTIRE law, then why did he not have to bring sacrifices to atone for EVERY transgression accounted for by the law, such a murder, robbery, etc.?!
    Only figuratively had he broken the entire law, but in reality he broke one. BTW, OT punishment for Adultery was stoning to death.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Middle East
    Posts
    1,130

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    He was "guilty" of the whole Law. He had not violated the whole Law. God makes a difference for sins, so in one, as pointed out above, there was a death penalty and in another a lesser penalty. It is like sin. "The wages of sin is death." Murder somebody and you sin. Steal a pencil from a millionaire and you sin. Both lead to death and need an atoning death to compensate for them. But at the judgment a difference is made.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    milton keynes
    Posts
    16,103

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Equipped_4_Love View Post
    If a man was guilty of breaking only one tenet of law, he is guilty of violating the ENTIRE law.

    I have a question -- Say a man, under the law, was guilty of adultery, and had to bring a sacrifice to atone for his sin. If the man was guilty of violating the ENTIRE law, then why did he not have to bring sacrifices to atone for EVERY transgression accounted for by the law, such a murder, robbery, etc.?!

    What is the ENTIRE law of God....Is it just a compilation of each and every law put forth in the Torah, or is there something deeper at work here?!

    I would think that if a man was guilty of violating every single tenet of the law, then he would have to bring a sacrifice to atone for every single tenet.

    Maybe I'm just confusing the matter -- but the law does discriinate between different sacrifices offered up for different sins.
    According to what is written sacrifices for sins are only for sins of ignorance other than that the requirement is death.

    Firstfruits

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    under the pain of the wish
    Posts
    10,801

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Equipped_4_Love View Post
    If a man was guilty of breaking only one tenet of law, he is guilty of violating the ENTIRE law.

    I have a question -- Say a man, under the law, was guilty of adultery, and had to bring a sacrifice to atone for his sin. If the man was guilty of violating the ENTIRE law, then why did he not have to bring sacrifices to atone for EVERY transgression accounted for by the law, such a murder, robbery, etc.?!

    What is the ENTIRE law of God....Is it just a compilation of each and every law put forth in the Torah, or is there something deeper at work here?!

    I would think that if a man was guilty of violating every single tenet of the law, then he would have to bring a sacrifice to atone for every single tenet.

    Maybe I'm just confusing the matter -- but the law does discriinate between different sacrifices offered up for different sins.
    Do you have a particular verse in mind that convicts a man of violating the entire law?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wherever the Lord places me
    Posts
    31,432

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Equipped_4_Love View Post
    If a man was guilty of breaking only one tenet of law, he is guilty of violating the ENTIRE law.
    Just to be clear, this is a Christian concept, not a Jewish one.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    milton keynes
    Posts
    16,103

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Just to be clear, this is a Christian concept, not a Jewish one.
    From what we have discussed before you agree with this.

    According to what is written sacrifices for sins are only for sins of ignorance other than that the requirement is death.

    Firstfruits

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wherever the Lord places me
    Posts
    31,432

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    From what we have discussed before you agree with this.

    According to what is written sacrifices for sins are only for sins of ignorance other than that the requirement is death.
    Mm, no. Sometimes a person has to pay restitution. Sometimes a person has to have 40 lashes. It's all in the bible.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    milton keynes
    Posts
    16,103

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Mm, no. Sometimes a person has to pay restitution. Sometimes a person has to have 40 lashes. It's all in the bible.
    What if the person that comitted the offence does not pay for their offence?

    Firstfruits

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wherever the Lord places me
    Posts
    31,432

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    What if the person that comitted the offence does not pay for their offence?
    Then they have an unexpunged sin.

    What does this have to do with the OP?
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

  13. #13
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    milton keynes
    Posts
    16,103

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Then they have an unexpunged sin.

    What does this have to do with the OP?
    It would mean that whatever else they did according to the law, they were already unrighteous before God.

    Firstfruits

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Wherever the Lord places me
    Posts
    31,432

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    It would mean that whatever else they did according to the law, they were already unrighteous before God.
    How did you arrive at that conclusion?
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

  15. #15
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    milton keynes
    Posts
    16,103

    Re: Knock-off thread from the thread addressed to Fenris

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    How did you arrive at that conclusion?
    If they have unforgiven sin are they not unrighteous until their sin is forgiven?

    Firstfruits

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Yet Another Thread About Fenris...
    By Firefighter in forum Bible Chat
    Replies: 71
    Last Post: Mar 29th 2011, 07:34 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •