Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
You think this guy didn't know that Christ was talking about the ten commandments as a whole?
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Christ did not speak of all ten, and the man most likely understood that. The scriptures clearly list Christ naming 6 not 10.You think this guy didn't know that Christ was talking about the ten commandments as a whole?
He also left out
You shall have no other gods beside me
You shall not make or worship idols
You shall not take My Name in vain
So, by your logic, 'if Christ wanted them kept, He could have said it as the 8th, 9th, and tenth, but he left them out on purpose', meaning of course that we don't have to obey them. Because He left them out of this list, its now okay to worship any god we want, bow ourselves down to stones and blocks of wood, and commit sin 'in the Name of Jesus'.
For some reason, I don't believe you.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Just as Christ is dead to the law so are those that are dead in Christ.
If you really believe that Heb 9:17 should be applied the way you think it should, consider this...
The first covenant would not be in effect until someone died. Christ died so now the first covenant is in effect. For the second covenant to be in effect, someone must die again (the second time) for the covenant to take effect. Christ is not going to die again.
Your logic doesn't work here. This is the danger of cherry picking verses (called proof texting) to prove your point of view.
Last edited by John 8:32; Nov 18th 2011 at 01:37 PM. Reason: punctuation
Yep, it is interesting.Originally Posted by John8:32
Same goes with stealing, lying, worshipping wood, etc. Those laws are in my heart. They're in yours too, if the Holy Spirit is in you.
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
We are free from obeying the works of the flesh.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
If there is no law, there is no sin. The law simply defines what good and evil is, does that make you think of a tree and a very bad choice that was made?
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