My opinion doesn't matter. The only person who gets to define Judaism is rejoice44.Originally Posted by rejoice44
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My opinion doesn't matter. The only person who gets to define Judaism is rejoice44.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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I also believe that the bible is not a history book, even if parts of it can be proven by history, it cannot in itself prove history, and history cannot prove all parts of the bible. History nor science will ever agree that the earth was made in 6 days, noahs arc, red sea opening up as dryland, Jesus rising up after 3 days, it just wont happen,
That is the most beautiful part of christianity, we believe in these miricles, that defy logic, and history and science. it is the impossible that proves to us THE ONES THAT HAVE FAITH IN OUR GOD, that he exists
256 seesaw posts lets go backwards on this one some reverse enginneering, anyone who believes that the bible is a historical reference book please define biblical faith for me. I always assumed it was faith that the miricles happened.
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Wow great post!
yes, the whole point is to have faith in things that can't be proved.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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Can't you define Judaism?
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I don't see the need. You've already defined it so well.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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Evidently you do not like my definition, and yet you refuse to define it. The essence of intellectual conversation requires mutually defined speech.
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Some time ago, I began a thread asking the question "What does one have to believe in order to get into heaven?"
The thread went on for many tens of pages before those involved concluded that the answer was not so easily defined. One had to read the bible and find the answer themself.
If a simple question like that doesn't have a simple answer, defining "what Judaism is" obviously cannot have a simple answer. But you pretend that it does. How did you put it? "Everything connected with worshiping God requires a Priest and a Temple." What a simple answer to such a complex question. And yet, it obviously isn't true. Judaism survived for at least 70 years with no priest and no temple, hundreds of years before Jesus was born. And that assumes that Judaism began at Sinai. What if Abraham was the first Jew? No priest and no temple for hundreds of years.
But go on, keep using your tired arguments over and over again. The only one you're convinced here is yourself.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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I believe John 6:54 makes it quite simple.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Simple, but true. We all need a mediator to connect with God, as well as a place to meet him. Doesn't Judaism teach this?If a simple question like that doesn't have a simple answer, defining "what Judaism is" obviously cannot have a simple answer. But you pretend that it does. How did you put it? "Everything connected with worshiping God requires a Priest and a Temple." What a simple answer to such a complex question.
Yes and where was Israel, in captivity and not able to worship in the manner God designated.Judaism survived for at least 70 years with no priest and no temple, hundreds of years before Jesus was born. And that assumes that Judaism began at Sinai. What if Abraham was the first Jew? No priest and no temple for hundreds of years.
Truth is not able to be given by man, only God does that.But go on, keep using your tired arguments over and over again. The only one you've convinced here is yourself.
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That's great, you should explain it to all those ignorant Christians who didn't know.
Um, no.Simple, but true. We all need a mediator to connect with God, as well as a place to meet him. Doesn't Judaism teach this?
Judaism survived. Because priest and temple are not essential.Yes and where was Israel, in captivity and not able to worship in the manner God designated.
Apparently you got it though.Truth is not able to be given by man, only God does that.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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Can you please clarify, i dont think i need a mediator to speak with god, and where am i suppose to meet him. lots of things havent made cense today, please explain better what you meant here, i think i am just missunderstanding
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Why then the priesthood?
Yes they survived, separated from God for a season, and unable to worship in the manner God prescribed.Judaism survived. Because priest and temple are not essential.
Sorry if I seem to be projecting that attitude. All truth emanates from God, I am not God.Apparently you got it though.
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The priesthood is not a mediator. They simply carry out temple functions.
Yes, they survived. To the present day, amazingly enough. Even survived several organized attempts at destruction.Yes they survived, separated from God for a season, and unable to worship in the manner God prescribed.
...Sorry if I seem to be projecting that attitude.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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Jesus Christ is our mediator. We are washed in the Blood of Jesus which allows us to be connected to the Father. The body of Jesus is the Word of God. John 1:1 The Word of God was clothed with flesh, therefore we have both man and God in one. That is why we always pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Without remission of sins we cannot stand before God.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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i agree thank you, i need a nap. lol
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Then why did Uzzah die?
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