If I've been babtized by the Holy Spirit, why cant I speak in tongues?

[Slug1]

what was your "UNbelief" about?

I was a cessationist, I believed all the false doctrine of cassationism that the gifts of the Holy Spirit has ended under the false pretense that the "perfect" is the coming of the Bible.

So my unbelief was all about not believing the truth of the Word of God that Jesus is the "perfect". I didn't believe in the power of God to be manifested supernaturally through the Body of Christ FOR His glory as He moves in power and the Holy Spirit provides that empowerment to the Body of Christ.

I also was prophesied over that night I went from UNbeliever to believer... God had to do this so that WHEN the Holy Spirit empowered a prophet to speak prophecy over me, I'd RECEIVE the message of a secret of my heart and then I'd be ABLE to worship God (glory given unto God) and believe that HE IS among those who He was using supernaturally.

A year prior, I'd of run out of there thinking they were nuts once the Holy Spirit empowered them and moved some to speak in tongues... or worse, STATE that what happened was of the devil and NOT God. If I had done that... I'd of committed blasphemy and NEVER be forgiven.

That is the damnable purpose of the cassationist doctrine... to get people so bound in the false truth that God don't manifest supernaturally anymore that WHEN He does manifest supernaturally, people under the bondage to that false doctrine "MAY" be so hardened of heart, that if they were to witness or experience a supernatural miracle/sign/wonder today... they "MAY" say the source of the power was from satan. If they "WERE" to do that... they committed blasphemy and they will NEVER be forgiven of that sin.

[Watchman]

1) it was a sign to the circumcised believers (jews) that "They [gentiles] have received the Holy Spirit just as we have (47)."

Previously you said, signs are for unbelievers. Now you say this sign, above, was for believers. You have exactly made my point. And no, we're not adversaries!

ybiC,

Watchman

[Slug1]

1) it was a sign to the circumcised believers (jews) that "They [gentiles] have received the Holy Spirit just as we have (47)."

To believe that signs/wonders are for ONLY Jews, cannot be supported in scripture though.

Look at those Acts 2 scriptures for example... Jews AND Gentiles were witness to those 120 speaking in tongues. So the sign/wonder called "kindS of tongues" is not for only the Jews.

Also, look at where the listing of "kindS of tongues" is explained to the Body of Christ in 1 Cor 12... Paul's context is the BODY OF CHRIST, not ONLY the Jews. Also pay attention to the location of Corinth... Jews AND Gentile are present and BOTH Jews and Gentiles are ABUSING the gift of "kindS of tongues".

Also, look at signs/wonders done by Philip (who was NOT an Apostle and was Greek in origin) in Samaria... those God did signs/wonders for THROUGH Philip were BOTH Jews and Gentiles.

Cornelius... a Gentile used by God to make Peter a "believer" that Gentiles can receive salvation unto Christ.

Signs/wonders were not ONLY for the Jews as the cessationist doctrine teaches. Also, UNbeliever is more than just a person who has NO faith in Christ. Peter had faith in Christ, yet he was an UNbeliever in the fact that Gentiles can be saved in Christ... UNTIL tongues was made manifest.

[Revmitchell]

On the Day of Pentecost, everyone in that room who was baptized by the Holy Spirit spoke in different tongues, right? I've been saved for 14 years, and I believe, according to the Word of God, that I was born again at that moment and received His Spirit, but I have never spoken in tongues. Why? Is the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" a separate event that takes place? If so, why haven't I been baptized in the Holy Spirit? I do believe that speaking in tongues is real, I guess some could fake it, not that I would know.

You can just like the rest of the Charismatics. Just say gibadubedube giba ten times over and bang, your speaking in tongues like the rest of them.

[Slug1]

You can just like the rest of the Charismatics. Just say gibadubedube giba ten times over and bang, your speaking in tongues like the rest of them.

This is disrespectful to the Holy Spirit and to God.

Pastor, I want you to know that I reported your disrespectful words about the Holy Spirit to the Mods.

[Revmitchell]

This is disrespectful to the Holy Spirit and to God.

The fake use of tongues as seen in so many churches is disrespectful to God.

[Slug1]

The fake use of tongues as seen in so many churches is disrespectful to God.

I agree with this statement.

Your other statement isn't informing us that you are talking about the false or fake tongues being spoken out there in the world.

The OP is asking about the Gift of Tongues which is ALL ABOUT the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.

You disrespected that with your initial comment.

[John 8:32]

The fake use of tongues as seen in so many churches is disrespectful to God.

Ah, but how does one know fake from real? And the inherent danger is that you can damn yourself...

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Luk 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Personally, I have nothing to say on the subject other than the gift of tongues has not been given to me. Perhaps my gifts lie in other areas.

[Revmitchell]

I agree with this statement.

Your other statement isn't informing us that you are talking about the false or fake tongues being spoken out there in the world.

The OP is asking about the Gift of Tongues which is ALL ABOUT the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.

You disrespected that with your initial comment.

uh, no.....If someone is empowered to speak a known language they had not previously learned in order to be able to preach the gospel to the lost then we have a biblcial use of tongues. If someone is looking for a repeat of Pentecost minus the sound of a rushing wind and tongues of fire within the church walls then we have an abomination to God. Not to mention that your other thread on people fearing Jesus is both disrespectful to God and to people.

1Co 14:22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.

[Slug1]

Ah, but how does one know fake from real? And the inherent danger is that you can damn yourself...

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Luk 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Personally, I have nothing to say on the subject other than the gift of tongues has not been given to me. Perhaps my gifts lie in other areas.

I touched on this a few posts ago

[John 8:32]

I touched on this a few posts ago

Yeah, it is just that this is such a serious issue, I thought it bore repeating.

[Slug1]

Yeah, it is just that this is such a serious issue, I thought it bore repeating.

Amen !

[Revmitchell]

Ah, but how does one know fake from real? And the inherent danger is that you can damn yourself...

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Luk 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Personally, I have nothing to say on the subject other than the gift of tongues has not been given to me. Perhaps my gifts lie in other areas.

Sure I will be glad to help you out:

1Co 14:22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.

[Watchman]

You can just like the rest of the Charismatics. Just say gibadubedube giba ten times over and bang, your speaking in tongues like the rest of them.

Bingo. Uttering gobbledegook maketh not tongues. However, the tongues of angels have yet to be recorded and deciphered. Your argument is bogus.

W

[Watchman]

Sure I will be glad to help you out:

1Co 14:22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.

Sooooo, you're basically saying that Peter was an unbeliever until the household of Cornelius spoke in tongues?