If I've been babtized by the Holy Spirit, why cant I speak in tongues?

[Saved7]

Well praise the Lord! I see so many people who seem to be getting the same glorious message from God. WE are growing and maturing, and realizing what it really means to follow Christ, to serve God, to be about our Father's business. Our hearts are set on His glory and His will as it should be, that He may be magnified in our own hearts and glorified through us! It is beginning to rain and we are blessed to be a part of it! Hallelujah! Glory, glory, glory to our God!

[keck553]

Amen... cleaning the church is a blessing and the freedom I have to do this even as the Associate Pastor now... offering to clean continues. I still laugh when people see me walking through the sanctuary with an armload of toilet paper rolls and they raise their eyebrows as they see me walk by into the bathroom and then I pass by them on the way out with a full bag of trash

To task is too small, too great, too easy or too difficult to serve our Lord Jesus. May His Name be magnified by those who love Him always.

[Sojourner55]

Amen... cleaning the church is a blessing and the freedom I have to do this even as the Associate Pastor now... offering to clean continues. I still laugh when people see me walking through the sanctuary with an armload of toilet paper rolls and they raise their eyebrows as they see me walk by into the bathroom and then I pass by them on the way out with a full bag of trash

Amen, Slug! God's ways are always opposite the ways of the world. Those who exalt themselves are humbled by God, and those who humble themselves, he exalts. I so much appreciate the lesson Jesus gave us by washing the feet of the disciples. If the Lord of glory was willing to do the job of a slave, while a man, who among us dares to think the most menial of tasks are beneath us?

[Indueseason]

Amen... cleaning the church is a blessing and the freedom I have to do this even as the Associate Pastor now... offering to clean continues. I still laugh when people see me walking through the sanctuary with an armload of toilet paper rolls and they raise their eyebrows as they see me walk by into the bathroom and then I pass by them on the way out with a full bag of trash

I was the church cleaner at the same time I was an elder. I learned more from the cleaning than I did being in leadership

Well praise the Lord! I see so many people who seem to be getting the same glorious message from God. WE are growing and maturing, and realizing what it really means to follow Christ, to serve God, to be about our Father's business. Our hearts are set on His glory and His will as it should be, that He may be magnified in our own hearts and glorified through us! It is beginning to rain and we are blessed to be a part of it! Hallelujah! Glory, glory, glory to our God!

Hallelujah and amen!!! Glory to God!!

blessings to you

[Slug1]

I was the church cleaner at the same time I was an elder. I learned more from the cleaning than I did being in leadership

I'll tell you what... I cleaned the church while serving as an elder for the past few years and when I was all alone in the church and cleaning... God was ministering many of those hours doing His OWN cleaning within me. Ya want to be CLOSE to God... go clean His house where ever you serve Him!

Now as a pastor... cleaning (both ways) continues

[Kingsdaughter]

Well praise the Lord! I see so many people who seem to be getting the same glorious message from God. WE are growing and maturing, and realizing what it really means to follow Christ, to serve God, to be about our Father's business. Our hearts are set on His glory and His will as it should be, that He may be magnified in our own hearts and glorified through us! It is beginning to rain and we are blessed to be a part of it! Hallelujah! Glory, glory, glory to our God!

Oh are we still talking about "speaking in tongues"? the Lord has turned the thread around and what a blessing you all are to me

[glad4mercy]

On the Day of Pentecost, everyone in that room who was baptized by the Holy Spirit spoke in different tongues, right? I've been saved for 14 years, and I believe, according to the Word of God, that I was born again at that moment and received His Spirit, but I have never spoken in tongues. Why? Is the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" a separate event that takes place? If so, why haven't I been baptized in the Holy Spirit? I do believe that speaking in tongues is real, I guess some could fake it, not that I would know.

1 Corinthians 12 explains that the manifestation is given to all believers, but He does not manifest Himself in the same way with every believer. Some are given the gift of tongues, some are given the gift of teaching, some are given other gifts. The gift that I really want the most is the gift of evangelism. We all are called to witness, but I am praying for more power from on High when I witness, and for Him to give me wisdom to say the right words when I share my faith with others. You have a special gift or gifts from God, and it may be the thing that lies closest to your redeemed heart. ( for it is God who works in us to will and to do His Good Pleasure), or it may be something you never dreamed of, ( this often happens as well). Find out what that gift is, ask God to fill you up , nurture that gift, and go out and use it to glorify Jesus, win souls, and edify the church.

[RockSolid]

On the Day of Pentecost, everyone in that room who was baptized by the Holy Spirit spoke in different tongues, right? I've been saved for 14 years, and I believe, according to the Word of God, that I was born again at that moment and received His Spirit, but I have never spoken in tongues. Why? Is the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" a separate event that takes place? If so, why haven't I been baptized in the Holy Spirit? I do believe that speaking in tongues is real, I guess some could fake it, not that I would know.

Personally, I believe the gift of tongues has ceased because it is no longer needed.
1Cor 13:8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease...

The gift of tongues was a fulfillment of OT prophecy in which God was pronouncing judgement upon unbelieving Israel.
Isa 28:11 ​​​​​​​​For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the Lord will speak to this people,
Isa 28:12 ​​​​​​​​to whom he has said, “This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose”; yet they would not hear.

Why did they speak in tongues on the day of Pentecost? It was a sign to the Jews.
Acts 2:5 Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven.
Acts 2:6 And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language.
Why did those Gentiles speak in tongues? It wasn't for the Gentiles benefit. It was a sign to the Jews that God had accepted the Gentiles as well.
Acts 10:45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.
In fact, it was the sole reason that the Christian Jews accepted the Gentiles, (Parentheses mine)
Acts 11:17 If then God gave the same gift to them (Gentiles) as he gave to us (Jews) when we (Jews) believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand in God's way?”
Acts 11:18 When they (Jews) heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.”

What you see today are people that need to rely on signs or experiences more than faith or people who need a confirmation that they "have the Spirit". The Jews were the ones that needed signs, it's what they expected, it's what they were used to. Those that are justified by faith do not need a sign.

1Cor 12:30 ...Do all speak with tongues?...
This verse let's me know that even when tongues were being spoken, it wasn't a gift given to every believer.

Even if you believe tongues are still being spoken the value of them is small; Five to ten-thousand according to Paul.
1Cor 14:19 I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

Kingsdaughter, if you want to believe that the gift of tongues is still around today then...
1. Don't fake it to be accepted by your peers. If it's going to happen it will happen. Guard your honesty like it's your 401k.
2. It does not make you less of Christian if you dont speak in tongues and if someone makes you feel that way then they are out of line.
3. You received the Spirit when you heard with faith and believed.
Gal 3:2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
Whether or not you spoke with tongues is irrelevant.

[Kahtar]

Kingsdaughter, if you want to believe that the gift of tongues is still around today then...
1. Don't fake it to be accepted by your peers. If it's going to happen it will happen. Guard your honesty like it's your 401k.
2. It does not make you less of Christian if you dont speak in tongues and if someone makes you feel that way then they are out of line.
3. You received the Spirit when you heard with faith and believed.
Gal 3:2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
Whether or not you spoke with tongues is irrelevant.

That is amazing advice from someone who does not believe in tongues for today. I'd rep you, but you have it turned off.
As to the need for tongues, I suppose you are correct, in most places in the US today everyone speaks the same language, and there is little need. Prophecy would be of much greater value.
However, if you happen to be a missionary on the Navajo Reservation, where in some places, Navajo is the only language they know, that give can and does come in handy occasionally.
I don't personally have that gift (wish I did sometimes), but there have been a number of times where someone has used it.
One story I can think of off the top of my head is a guy that went to the hospital (I think he was a pastor) to visit and pray with a Navajo woman. She did not speak English, he did not speak Navajo.
So he just went in, and began praying for her. In the midst of his prayer, he began praying in tongues, and she understood every word.
That's all I remember of it, but I have no reason to think the pastor was lying about that.
I teach a Bible class on the reservation, and there have been numerous times when I wish I could speak the language.
A couple do not speak English and don't know what I'm saying, so it has to be translated to them.
All but one of the others only speak and understand English marginally. So I have to use the most simple words.

[RockSolid]

That is amazing advice from someone who does not believe in tongues for today. I'd rep you, but you have it turned off.
As to the need for tongues, I suppose you are correct, in most places in the US today everyone speaks the same language, and there is little need. Prophecy would be of much greater value.
However, if you happen to be a missionary on the Navajo Reservation, where in some places, Navajo is the only language they know, that give can and does come in handy occasionally.
I don't personally have that gift (wish I did sometimes), but there have been a number of times where someone has used it.
One story I can think of off the top of my head is a guy that went to the hospital (I think he was a pastor) to visit and pray with a Navajo woman. She did not speak English, he did not speak Navajo.
So he just went in, and began praying for her. In the midst of his prayer, he began praying in tongues, and she understood every word.
That's all I remember of it, but I have no reason to think the pastor was lying about that.
I teach a Bible class on the reservation, and there have been numerous times when I wish I could speak the language.
A couple do not speak English and don't know what I'm saying, so it has to be translated to them.
All but one of the others only speak and understand English marginally. So I have to use the most simple words.

I do not doubt that God can use tongues in special occasions, as in the one you described. Especially if they have never heard the gospel.

[Brother Mark]

That is amazing advice from someone who does not believe in tongues for today. I'd rep you, but you have it turned off.
As to the need for tongues, I suppose you are correct, in most places in the US today everyone speaks the same language, and there is little need. Prophecy would be of much greater value.
However, if you happen to be a missionary on the Navajo Reservation, where in some places, Navajo is the only language they know, that give can and does come in handy occasionally.
I don't personally have that gift (wish I did sometimes), but there have been a number of times where someone has used it.
One story I can think of off the top of my head is a guy that went to the hospital (I think he was a pastor) to visit and pray with a Navajo woman. She did not speak English, he did not speak Navajo.
So he just went in, and began praying for her. In the midst of his prayer, he began praying in tongues, and she understood every word.
That's all I remember of it, but I have no reason to think the pastor was lying about that.
I teach a Bible class on the reservation, and there have been numerous times when I wish I could speak the language.
A couple do not speak English and don't know what I'm saying, so it has to be translated to them.
All but one of the others only speak and understand English marginally. So I have to use the most simple words.

I had a friend (he has since passed away) that did not believe in tongues. He was preaching in Florida and after the service, a Spanish speaking lady came up to him and just started talking away in Spanish. He didn't understand a word she said. Years later, after he came to believe in tongues, the same woman showed up. They began to talk about that day. She said she heard that entire sermon in Spanish and got saved that day! Imagine that!

I have another friend whom saw a Romanian couple come to church. God put it on his heart to help them. He didn't know anything about them other than the Lord's burden. He bought some groceries and took it to them. Only one of the children spoke English, the rest of the very large family did not. He asked them if he could bring a friend to pray for them and they agreed, through the interpreter. He got a little old lady that was a friend of his to go with him next time he visited. She was going to pray over them and asked if she could "pray in tongues". They said yes, through the interpreter (which was their daughter). So the woman prayers. As she finished, they were all crying. The little girl explained that the woman had prayed for them and called each one out by name, and prayed over each individual specifically and in areas of need.

[jesse]

I believe speaking in tongues, healing, prophecies, etc...were apart of the "signs and wonders" that accompanied the birth of the church. I don't believe they still continue. However in Matthew 24:24 it seems to indicate they will happen again during the tribulation.

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. Matthew 24:24

I don't believe we are currently in the tribulation.

[amazzin]

Are you saying that those who presently speak in tongues and operate in the gift of healing and prophecy are "false prophets performing signs and wonders"?

I believe speaking in tongues, healing, prophecies, etc...were apart of the "signs and wonders" that accompanied the birth of the church. I don't believe they still continue. However in Matthew 24:24 it seems to indicate they will happen again during the tribulation.

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. Matthew 24:24

I don't believe we are currently in the tribulation.

[jesse]

Are you saying that those who presently speak in tongues and operate in the gift of healing and prophecy are "false prophets performing signs and wonders"?

Well i added at the end that i "don't believe we are currently in the tribulation" so in general no.

However i would assume that if someone said they were a prophet and their prophecy did not come to pass, then they were a false prophet. I have never seen a prophet though. But of course prophet is kind of a vague term.

What do people mean by the word prophet?

1 Do they mean a person who talks with God and feels strongly that something in particular may happen?

2 Or do they mean someone who thinks we are morally degrading as a nation?

3 Or do they mean that God appeared to them or spoke with an audible voice and told them something specific to tell to a particular person or people group?

4 Or do they mean something else?

I personally would not call someone a prophet unless they fit into category 3.

[-SEEKING-]

I believe speaking in tongues, healing, prophecies, etc...were apart of the "signs and wonders" that accompanied the birth of the church. I don't believe they still continue.

Why would you believe that? Because you don't currently have those gifts? Why would those gifts not be just as needed now?