Re: Why is the doctrine of the Trinity important to you?
Originally Posted by fewarechosen
Peter was wrong in his "doctrine" about the Gentiles being unclean.
above peter was thinking his message was just for jews, again i see a difference between that and preaching a mistruth
he was incorrect thinking something impure which God called pure. the message was the exact same he was pointing out to peter that its for gentiles too, to me not a change in doctrine at all just letting peter know its for gentiles too.
he had a vision showing him to preach it to the gentiles, and God himself showed him not man. paul didnt have to come up and say dude thats for everyone. God did it. a few moments later in acts is when he says you all know i was sent to preach it to gentiles referencing this vision.
Paul had to correct Peter of sin though.
so in none of these do i see apostle correcting apostle or man teaching them anything.
They did teach each other. For instance, Peter was the one who taught the other apostles about grace coming to the Gentiles in Acts 15. Right? And Paul taught Peter not to say one thing and do another. Well, he corrected him but not sure he taught him.
now most definatly the apostles and others are appointed teachers - and i know you know this without me saying that the Holy Spirit entered them and they taught what the spirit showed them. so they were appointed as teachers not by man but by Holy Spirit. so it holds that they needed no man teacheth them. when they are appointed as teachers, it is done through Holy Spirit and that is what teaches through them.
I do agree that the Holy Spirit taught through them.
If man is hearing from God, then man is teaching what God says. That is key for every sermon! If we are not hearing from God, then we are not teaching from God. God taught me a long time ago that he could do more with 1 word than I could do with 10,000!
so what we are seeking is the truth given by God, he may have a person deliver it to us. but its not the man that is teaching, why they say you need that no man teacheth you. meaning if you are going to man to learn of God you are looking in wrong place, if you go to God and he sends you a man with a message of the HS to teach you thats his choice. either way no man is needed to teach you. it still came from God. may seem almost like a nonsense point but for me its a huge difference in where you are looking.
now do we all(those with HS) believe the correct thing right away ? nope
Holy Spirit has to undo alot of what we thought we know. for me the beam is still getting pulled out. hence he still making me aware of things i am in error of.
Sounds good. Way past my bed time too. I am enjoying our discussions as well.
we look through a dim glass now that is very true, but what we are looking at behind the glass should be the same.
Good stuff brother mark i enjoy our discussions, its gettin late here so off to bed, see you back here soon
Grace to you,
13 "But go and learn what this means: ' I DESIRE COMPASSION,AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."