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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    What do you think?
    I think the bible says otherwise.
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    I think the bible says otherwise.
    Where does it say to the Jewish people, I will cut you off for two thousand years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    Where does it say to the Jewish people, I will cut you off for two thousand years?
    Let me ask you a question.

    Do you think that God is done with the Jewish people?
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Let me ask you a question.

    Do you think that God is done with the Jewish people?
    No, I know God isn't.

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    No, I know God isn't.
    OK, so we're in agreement.
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    OK, so we're in agreement.
    While God isn't done with Israel there is many Jews that have died never knowing God.

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    Yes, there are many Jews who are non-religious.
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Yes, there are many Jews who are non-religious.
    The Muslims are religious, so how does that relate to knowing God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    The Muslims are religious, so how does that relate to knowing God?
    God only knows.
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    God only knows.
    The problem is it doesn't relate to knowing God. God had a method of worship for Israel which Israel no longer follows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    The problem is it doesn't relate to knowing God. God had a method of worship for Israel which Israel no longer follows.
    Or do they...?
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Or do they...?
    It clearly requires a Temple and priest.

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    It clearly requires a Temple and priest.
    Hmm really? What happened between 586BC and 516BC?
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Hmm really? What happened between 586BC and 516BC?
    But that is only 70 yrs, isn't it, and not thousands of years. And didn't that soon get resolved thereafter? So why would it be taking God so long this next time around, as in from when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD? Could it be that it has already been resolved? The NT seems to think so.

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    Re: Did Christ come as a Messiah to the Jewish People?

    Quote Originally Posted by divaD View Post
    But that is only 70 yrs, isn't it, and not thousands of years.
    So what? Given that people only lived about 30 years at the time, it meant several entire generations lived and died with no temple, no sacrifice, no priests...

    How is that any different from the generations after 70? It isn't.

    So why would it be taking God so long this next time around, as in from when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD?
    I don't pretend to understand why God does things.

    Could it be that it has already been resolved? The NT seems to think so.
    The NT has it's rationale. Jews understand things differently. Everything will be resolved in the end I guess.
    As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit who is on you, and My words that I have put in your mouth, will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouth of your children, or from the mouth of your children's children, from now on and forever," says the LORD.


    Isaiah 59:21

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