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    Fast & Furious

    New details on the Fast & Furious scandal.

    Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program overseen by the DOJ. The operation facilitated the sale of thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers. Straw purchasers are people who legally purchase guns in the United States with the known intention of illegally trafficking them somewhere else. In Fast and Furious, the straw purchasers were known to be trafficking the weapons into Mexico, effectively arming Mexican drug cartels.
    At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/56...#ixzz1gTn804YG

    Internal memos show that agents actually discussed using the operation to justify taking away the 2nd amendment rights of US citizens. Congress is currently investigating Fast & Furious. Attorney General Eric Holder has already been caught making at least one false statement under oath. 56 Congressmen have called for his resignation so far.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...n-regulations/

    Summary: Our Department of Justice secretly armed Mexican cartels so they could kill more people. In doing this, our DOJ could make the case for tighter gun control.

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    Re: Fast & Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by RockSolid View Post
    New details on the Fast & Furious scandal.

    Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program overseen by the DOJ. The operation facilitated the sale of thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers. Straw purchasers are people who legally purchase guns in the United States with the known intention of illegally trafficking them somewhere else. In Fast and Furious, the straw purchasers were known to be trafficking the weapons into Mexico, effectively arming Mexican drug cartels.
    At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/56...#ixzz1gTn804YG

    Internal memos show that agents actually discussed using the operation to justify taking away the 2nd amendment rights of US citizens. Congress is currently investigating Fast & Furious. Attorney General Eric Holder has already been caught making at least one false statement under oath. 56 Congressmen have called for his resignation so far.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...n-regulations/

    Summary: Our Department of Justice secretly armed Mexican cartels so they could kill more people. In doing this, our DOJ could make the case for tighter gun control.
    Wow. Until now, I just was having a hard time understanding what this was all about. Now I get it. What on earth?! Every last one of those who were for this F&F thing needs to be arrested and put in prison for a very very long time, for murder, illegal drug and gun sales, as well as treason.
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    How about using taxpayers money to purchase the weapons and then selling the weapons to the bad guys?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...ocuments-show/
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    MT 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.


    As opposed to the bad man that does nothing?

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    Nothing more transcendental than a very long stretch in a Mexican jail, without the benefit of a bribery cache, imo.

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    Eric Holder...the facts are killing him in this Fast & Furious scandal. Time for a new approach... the race card.
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/19/ju...s-with-racism/

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    Re: Fast & Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by RockSolid View Post
    New details on the Fast & Furious scandal.

    Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program overseen by the DOJ. The operation facilitated the sale of thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers. Straw purchasers are people who legally purchase guns in the United States with the known intention of illegally trafficking them somewhere else. In Fast and Furious, the straw purchasers were known to be trafficking the weapons into Mexico, effectively arming Mexican drug cartels.
    At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/56...#ixzz1gTn804YG

    Internal memos show that agents actually discussed using the operation to justify taking away the 2nd amendment rights of US citizens. Congress is currently investigating Fast & Furious. Attorney General Eric Holder has already been caught making at least one false statement under oath. 56 Congressmen have called for his resignation so far.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...n-regulations/

    Summary: Our Department of Justice secretly armed Mexican cartels so they could kill more people. In doing this, our DOJ could make the case for tighter gun control.
    Nothing is going to happen to anyone involved in Fast and Furious. Why? Because it has CIA written all over it. This is classic CIA funneling weapons to a group of people they support. They want one cartel to win out over the other. I guess the cartel they are backing is the lesser of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    Nothing is going to happen to anyone involved in Fast and Furious. Why? Because it has CIA written all over it. This is classic CIA funneling weapons to a group of people they support. They want one cartel to win out over the other. I guess the cartel they are backing is the lesser of two evils.
    I dunno. From what I'm reading, while the ATF/DOJ is supplying guns to the Sinaloas, the State Dept is supplying military grade hardware (guns, grenades, rocket launchers, night-vision, armor, etc.)to the Zetas. Maybe the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Or maybe both arms meet in the middle with the Obama admin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevLogos View Post
    I dunno. From what I'm reading, while the ATF/DOJ is supplying guns to the Sinaloas, the State Dept is supplying military grade hardware (guns, grenades, rocket launchers, night-vision, armor, etc.)to the Zetas. Maybe the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Or maybe both arms meet in the middle with the Obama admin.
    Or maybe they want a civil war large enough to destabalize the govt.

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    Re: Fast & Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by RockSolid View Post
    New details on the Fast & Furious scandal.

    Fast and Furious was a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program overseen by the DOJ. The operation facilitated the sale of thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers. Straw purchasers are people who legally purchase guns in the United States with the known intention of illegally trafficking them somewhere else. In Fast and Furious, the straw purchasers were known to be trafficking the weapons into Mexico, effectively arming Mexican drug cartels.
    At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/56...#ixzz1gTn804YG

    Internal memos show that agents actually discussed using the operation to justify taking away the 2nd amendment rights of US citizens. Congress is currently investigating Fast & Furious. Attorney General Eric Holder has already been caught making at least one false statement under oath. 56 Congressmen have called for his resignation so far.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...n-regulations/

    Summary: Our Department of Justice secretly armed Mexican cartels so they could kill more people. In doing this, our DOJ could make the case for tighter gun control.
    Create the Crisis then offer the solution. This has been their method of operation all over the world. Create anarchy then offer the tough laws to the people in fear, to make them "safe".

    Or should i say "peace and safety"...



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    Re: Fast & Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by RevLogos View Post
    I dunno. From what I'm reading, while the ATF/DOJ is supplying guns to the Sinaloas, the State Dept is supplying military grade hardware (guns, grenades, rocket launchers, night-vision, armor, etc.)to the Zetas. Maybe the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Or maybe both arms meet in the middle with the Obama admin.
    LOL Arming Both sides makes the conflict last longer with more bloodshed. They don't want one side winning fast and the conflict being over in a week do they.. They want it to last a few years with thousands of deaths. Longer, more violent, more fear, more support for their "solution" when they introduce it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adstars View Post
    LOL Arming Both sides makes the conflict last longer with more bloodshed. They don't want one side winning fast and the conflict being over in a week do they.. They want it to last a few years with thousands of deaths. Longer, more violent, more fear, more support for their "solution" when they introduce it.

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    Funny. Actually, it's one kind of operation that CIA might engage in to get close to the bad guys to assess them. But, it looks like the assessment wasn't going on here.

    Besides, ATFE is not the CIA.
    PROV 21:3 To do righteousness and justice Is more acceptable to Jehovah than sacrifice.-American Standard Version 1901

    MT 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.


    As opposed to the bad man that does nothing?

    AMOS 6:3 Ye that put far away the evil day, and cause the seat of violence to come near;

    GAL 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockSolid View Post
    Eric Holder...the facts are killing him in this Fast & Furious scandal. Time for a new approach... the race card.
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/19/ju...s-with-racism/
    Holder said some unspecified faction — what he refers to as the “more extreme segment” — is driven to criticize both him and President Barack Obama due to the color of their skin. Holder did not appear to elaborate on who he considered to make up the “more extreme segment.”

    “This is a way to get at the president because of the way I can be identified with him,” Holder said, according to the Times. “Both due to the nature of our relationship and, you know, the fact that we’re both African-American.”
    There are times that all you can do is shake your head. The sad part is that they probably believe it too.

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    Re: Fast & Furious

    Quote Originally Posted by Adstars View Post
    LOL Arming Both sides makes the conflict last longer with more bloodshed. They don't want one side winning fast and the conflict being over in a week do they.. They want it to last a few years with thousands of deaths. Longer, more violent, more fear, more support for their "solution" when they introduce it.


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    The Hegelian dialectic in perfect form.

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    Nah, it's more like the O Administration needed 'proof' that guns were crossing the border in order to exact more gun control, and if American citizens weren't doing it to their liking, they decided to do it themselves. But got caught.

    Just another setup by this criminal organization aka the Obama Administration.

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    C'mon November...after that, Congress can go after the criminals!
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