Why does this have to be about free will instead of a prophetic word? Paul saw what would happen and prophesied works in this passage as well.__________________________________________________ ______________
Here is another interesting passage where I would think that if a John146 or Gadgeteer was there to hear this, you would have had to stop Paul and correct him because Paul is not allowing for free-will.
The Jailer Converted
31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. 33 And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household. 34 And he brought them into his house and set food before them, and rejoiced greatly, having believed in God with his whole household.
How can Paul know this? His household has not even heard the gospel and they not only need to hear it but then they need to process it and decide if they accept it with their free-will. Paul/God is skipping over this step and stating that their salvation will be a done deal if their father accepts Christ.... how do the "free-will" outside of God's sovereignty handle this passage?
God prophesying is not the same as decreeing. And God will use the evil in man's heart to bring judgment on the righteous. It is in His character to do so. He uses Satan to chastise believers (1 Cor. 5). He used Chaldeans to chastise Israel (Habakkuk). He even used Samson's lust as an occasion against the Philistines.So, David screws up and now God decrees a sin that David's son Absalom will partake in... Does this take place according to Absalom's free-will? YES. Does this take place according to God's sovereign will? YES.
God sees the hearts of men and will use what is in them to accomplish his will. That doesn't mean he wills for what is in the heart of man.
BTW, if you want an interesting study, go figure out why Ahithophel committed suicide! Very fascinating! Scripture says that when he spoke, it was if God himself was giving the advice. Yet, this man committed suicide. Why? It's interesting.
I think Absolam had a choice. God foresaw and prophesied. He used Absolam's sin. Doesn't mean he decreed it.And finally the passage below tells me that it isn't as simple as a 1 man, 1 equal free-will choice to follow the Lord or not follow the Lord. There is a LOT at play in life. You have the sin in the society you grow up in, the faith or lack there of by your parents, personal sin and issues, and ultimately God's plan. In all the above scenarios I believe there is free-will to sin and will be punishment for it. But for anyone to think that Absalom had a choice OUTSIDE of God's sovereign plan and could have NOT slept with David's wives after David sinned is to call God a liar as far as I can see it. God's sovereign plan trumps everything for He is the Word.
Love this passage! Why were Daniel and Jeremiah in bondage to the Babylonians? Because of the sin of their parents.“You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.” (Exodus 20:4-6 )
Why didn't Jonathan become king of Israel? He was next in line to Saul? It was because of the sin of his dad, Saul. Check out this verse.
1 Sam 13:13-14
13 Samuel said to Saul, " You have acted foolishly; you have not kept the commandment of the Lord your God, which He commanded you, for now the Lord would have established your kingdom over Israel forever. 14 "But now your kingdom shall not endure. The Lord has sought out for Himself a man after His own heart, and the Lord has appointed him as ruler over His people, because you have not kept what the Lord commanded you."
Grace and peace,