Re: When did we stop believing God for souls and started believing Him for stuff?
If y'all don't mind, I'd rather not get into teacher bashing and naming names, and if this thread goes that way I will ask the Mods for a shutdown because that wasn't my intention for starting it to begin with.
Because while there are certain folk teaching unbiblical Mammon chasing thinly disguised as anything having to do with "faith" ... they're not here to defend themselves and I'd rather address OUR error in having had anything to do with these teachings. Because I can't repent of Preacher XYZ's sin. I can only repent of my own. Which I have, in this regard because as a baby believer I too got waylayed by this junk ... when you live in modern-day Babylon (and I'm not saying America IS Babylon but certainly we can see glimpses of it in our culture, can we not?) ... it can be difficult to not let its mindsets run off with you, especially if one is not mature in the faith and taught incorrectly.
I can only see Scripture for myself, become convicted of its truth, and obey God for myself. Certain individuals wouldn't have that big a platform if folk could be bothered to study Scripture for themselves instead of taking the lazy route of second-hand teaching (yep, pointing at myself here yet again). Because Scripture also tells us that people set up those teachers for themselves, to have their ears tickled, and so the error here certainly isn't one-sided (even though teachers do receive stricter judgment as we all know).
Matter of fact the American TVangelist hoop-lah junk of the prior decades, I think, has been summarily kicked in the fanny by God and as a result has forced many inside the Church to reevaluate their stance on a lot of these things as we've become the laughing stock of the world, and I am actually thankful for that because we can now focus on what actually matters. Let God judge those who remain slaves to the mindset of Babylon and her material excesses. He is able. Let's also ask God to judge any remaining trace of Babylon within us, if we dare, teach us what "enough" means and teach us what it means to really be satisfied with Jesus alone so we can focus on the whole soul business without becoming distracted.
Even so, come Lord Jesus!