Departed from where? Where were they that they "departed from", and where were they that they "fell away from"?Their hearts were hardened by the deceitfulness of sin to the point that they departed and demonstrated that they have NOT become partakers of Christ (Hebrews 3:14).Not what it says. We are partners IF we hold fast. We are Christ's house IF we hold fast.Holding the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, is the demonstrative evidence that we HAVE BECOME partakers of Christ.He says "WE shall not escape if we neglect salvation". Same as Heb12:25, WE shall not escape who turn away from God". Why does he say "we"?For having heard, rebelled (vs. 16) "instead of believing." They drifted away from what they heard (Hebrews 2:1) and neglected the offer of salvation (Hebrews 2:3)There is a direct contrast with Israel --- they did not mix hearing with faith. But were they always faithless? No! So what about us, here today? If WE do not mix faith with hearing (if we STOP mixing faith!), then we can FALL (4:11) and fail to enter God's rest.by not mixing faith with what they heard (Hebrews 4:2).
Fall from where?Yes --- but not the way you thought. I've asked pointed questions --- as always I look forward to your thoughts. You are intelligent, and we have always been able to disagree without harsh feelings; I respect you and I think you respect me.See how this all fits together?Do you still perceive this as "they-were-never-saved"?Those who drift away here were not earnest to heed the things they heard. Hearing does not necessarily equate with believing. Jesus declared: "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life (John 5:24). These Hebrews needed to take heed that they did not drift away from what they heard and neglect the offer of such a great salvation.
In saying "WE", the writer (Paul!) includes himself.The author of Hebrews is writing to a very large group of Hebrews (Jews) and does not infallibly know the heart of each person,Can you please explain how you perceive 3:6 & 3:14 as "they SHOWED their salvation BY holding fast (and the others demonstrated their NEVER-salvation by not holding fast)", rather than "We are Christ's house IF we hold fast", "we are partners in Christ IF we hold fast"?but he does know that in the end, the ones who will be identified as those who have become partakers of Christ, those who did take heed to what they heard, those who did mix faith with that they heard, will have been those who hold fast the beginning of their confidence steadfast to the end." These faltering Hebrews who depart from God begin with loud confidence and profession of loyalty. But later? They demonstrate their unbelief by their actions.
Thanx again for your thoughts, if you're inclined to respond --- both to this post and to the previous one.