Obama Apologizes to Muslims Over Koran Burnings While US Servicemen Get Murdered

[Liquid Tension]

In fact, we can't even expect him to be a good golfer...even though he's had waaaaaay more practice than most.

OK, that was funny!

[Liquid Tension]

OK, is it just me or do Muslims just need to get over themselves as far Koran burnings go? I mean it just seems so ridiculous to react this way when a Koran gets burnt, especially since this was apparently an accident.

[keck553]

OK, is it just me or do Muslims just need to get over themselves as far Koran burnings go? I mean it just seems so ridiculous to react this way when a Koran gets burnt, especially since this was apparently an accident.

any excusse for bloodshed.

[Sojourner55]

An excerpt from an article related to the burnings:

Gen. John R. Allen, the NATO commanding general in Afghanistan, and President Obama both apologized in the wake of the demonstrations.

But in its statement Friday, the Ulema Council condemned the burning, said no apology would be enough to forgive the desecrations of the Koran and asked for guarantees that religious texts would never be dishonored again.

“The council strongly condemns this inhuman, bad and barbaric act by American forces based at Bagram Military Base and emphasizes that this devilish action cannot be forgiven by apologizing,” Maulawi Mohammad Said, a member of the council, said in a statement read to Mr. Karzai, according to the palace. “The perpetrators of this crime should be put on a public trial as soon as possible and be punished, and both NATO and the United States should guarantee that in the future no one will dare to desecrate Muslim religious materials.”

This is typical of the mindset in Muslim fanaticism. A burning of Korans is "inhuman, bad, and barbaric," and apologies are futile: justice must be swift and sure! Yet, there is not a hint of the wrongness of murdering six people who were completely innocent of involvement in the incident. Perspective is a strange thing.

[keck553]

An excerpt from an article related to the burnings:

Gen. John R. Allen, the NATO commanding general in Afghanistan, and President Obama both apologized in the wake of the demonstrations.

But in its statement Friday, the Ulema Council condemned the burning, said no apology would be enough to forgive the desecrations of the Koran and asked for guarantees that religious texts would never be dishonored again.

“The council strongly condemns this inhuman, bad and barbaric act by American forces based at Bagram Military Base and emphasizes that this devilish action cannot be forgiven by apologizing,” Maulawi Mohammad Said, a member of the council, said in a statement read to Mr. Karzai, according to the palace. “The perpetrators of this crime should be put on a public trial as soon as possible and be punished, and both NATO and the United States should guarantee that in the future no one will dare to desecrate Muslim religious materials.”

This is typical of the mindset in Muslim fanaticism. A burning of Korans is "inhuman, bad, and barbaric," and apologies are futile: justice must be swift and sure! Yet, there is not a hint of the wrongness of murdering six people who were completely innocent of involvement in the incident. Perspective is a strange thing.

God says in Torah an eye for and eye, but radical muslims say mass murder for an insult, and the appeaser in chief apologizes to this ilk.

[Watchman]

[Dravenhawk]

What is being completely forgotten here is that Islam / Muslims have declared war on America. Any chance or opprotunity these Muslims have to exploit American acts of nation building, they can and will turn against us. Being at war with America the Muslims have only ONE rule of engagement and that rule is to kill Americans with no respect to persons. Soldiers, women, children are all viewed in the same light in the eyes of the jihadist warriors. Wars are won in body counts and damage not by apologizing to the enemy and tieing the hands of our warriors to their backs and rendering them militarily impotent. As long as the mindset presists that this nation of jihadists can be bought off with trinkets and schools or pacified with apologies America will lose this war with Islam and lose badly. - - - - Dravenhawk

[Watchman]

What is being completely forgotten here is that Islam / Muslims have declared war on America.

And Obummer is apparently on their side.

[Faithful One]

That pretty much says it all. Sheesh.

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[ChristianCoffee]

Yet where is his outcry when they burn Bibles and kill Christians?

[GitRDunn]

The ignorance and hatred in this thread astonishes and saddens me. I guess it isn't a surprise that some despise what they see of Christianity today.

What happened was wrong and an apology was in order. Was it an accident? Yes. Does that make an apology unnecessary? No. Didn't anyone here learn manners as a kid? Whether or not the other person apologizes for doing something wrong does not make it right to not apologize for something you did wrong. Were the killings deplorable? Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that the Koran burning was wrong. If anyone would stop and think about this for a second, rather than getting swept up in the emotion and propaganda, they would realize Obama apologized because what happened was wrong and an apology was in order. Also, he apologized because not apologizing or saying we were in the right to burn these books (which we weren't) would have likely led to the deaths of even more servicemen and women (and others). I don't care who you are or what the book is, burning a book is wrong, especially a religious text.

Also, all of Islam has not declared war on America. Some Muslims have, but that doesn't mean the entire religion has. Saying something like this is as bad as the anti-Semitic propaganda put out by the Nazis while the Holocaust was going on. We are supposed to love everyone, not hate them because someone who happens to claim to be a member of the same religion half a world away decides to hate Americans. Christians have done plenty of horrible things throughout history. If judging an entire sect of people based on the actions of a few (or even a majority) is the right thing to do and an accurate thing to do, then those who are anti-Christian are just as right as this anti-Islam rhetoric is.

It's the trail of tears, black bigotry, and Japanese internment camps all over again. I guess history is bound to repeat itself; if only people would learn from history and make the future better and brighter than those blights upon our past.

[Liquid Tension]

The ignorance and hatred in this thread astonishes and saddens me.

Nice job.

It's the trail of tears, black bigotry, and Japanese internment camps all over again.

Ummmmm, ok.

Doesn't change the fact that some (sorry, I didn't add this word in my last post) Muslims need to get over themselves when it comes to the burning of the Koran, accidentally or otherwise. Keep in mind, this would go for Christians also if there was a reaction like this for burning a Bible (although I can't recall a time recently where Christians killed someone for burning a Bible).

[GitRDunn]

Doesn't change the fact that some (sorry, I didn't add this word in my last post) Muslims need to get over themselves when it comes to the burning of the Koran, accidentally or otherwise. Keep in mind, this would go for Christians also if there was a reaction like this for burning a Bible (although I can't recall a time recently where Christians killed someone for burning a Bible).

I agree with this. I don't agree with their reactions, the protests, or any of that either. What I was trying to point out was the fact that the improper and violent reactions of some Muslims to this burning does not make the burnings ok, Obama's apology any less required by proper manners, or mean that all Muslims agree with the violence, as some (and I'm not pointing to anyone in particular here) would suggest.

[Fenris]

What I was trying to point out was the fact that the improper and violent reactions of some Muslims to this burning does not make the burnings ok

I think the burnings were ok. Those Korans weren't burnt out of religious hatred. They were burnt because they were being used by terrorist to communicate in code. They desecrated those holy books when they did that. Why is no one talking about this?

[BrianW]

Some people have been bringing that point up since this whole thing started. From what I understand the proper way to dispose of these "desecrated" books according to Muslim law is to....you guessed it....burn them. Which is exactly what we did.

I see the whole thing as nothing more than a thin and very weak excuse for those who murdered and rioted. An excuse that they were obviously waiting for.