pray for discernment

[MoreMercy]

I've had odd feelings lately. Maybe this is why. It's like I can feel Gods anger towards the non-believers. Thoughts of thousands of people that will be killed for their wrong ways. It's the most sad and unusual feeling, that makes me want to get out there and tell everyone that THE END IS NEAR. A feeling a Gods wrath. I know it must happen, but I feel so sad. It's like no other feeling I've ever had. WE MUST do all we can to help people find their way, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

Howdy Protective Angel
I can relate to what you share there.
I cannot truthfully say that I regret asking Him in prayer to see His creatures and creations the way He sees them, and for me to able to feel what He feels about them.
This is something very new and recent to me, I did not begin to pray for these things until early this year, and I started recieving His merciful answers with in a week.
I can truthfully say that I was in noway prepared for even the smallest portion of that prayer being answered.
My consciousness has totally changed in ways I fear to describe publicly.

I am not positioning myself as anyone special by sharing this, I would even suggest to those who read what I share here: to be very, very careful of what you ask of a God who is and has always been faithful to every word that He spoke and speaks.
I am nothing special, I am just one of you, all I did was keep asking Him to show me what He see and for me to be able to feel what He feels.

The merciful answer to those prayers were so revealing, so heart breaking, so humbling, even shameful to me.
Things within a month turned upside down for me, I began to see how oblivious we all are (including myself) to the pain we cause our loving Father in heaven and also how oblivious we are to the pain we cause one another too.

He showed me by the people I loved the most how much envy, strife and hatred was hiding in all of our hearts... And I am not excluding my self from those dark symptoms either, when I was given just a glimpse of my fellow's heart's motives that I never recognized or even considered existed in them before, God began to show me that my heart was even in a darker place than theirs.
I didn't have to ask God to examine me to show me how wicked my own heart's motives are, all I did was begin to see how dark of a place my fellows were and God snapped me out of it almost instantly by showing me how much more of a dark place my heart has been dwelling.


God bless your ears and eyes to His voice and moves, good servant and friend of my Master.

[Protective Angel]

I read these words a couple nights ago and needed to go back last night and read again.
The words speak volumes.

John 15:18-20
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
John 15:24
If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guily of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father.
John 16:1-4
"All this I have told you so that you will not go astray. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
John 16:6-8
Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgement.
2 Tim 3:14
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

After reading I starting praying for the world. Without going into details, I will tell you when I finished, a great feeling of accomplishment came upon me.
Praise God

[MoreMercy]

I read these words a couple nights ago and needed to go back last night and read again.
The words speak volumes.

John 15:18-20
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
John 15:24
If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guily of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father.
John 16:1-4
"All this I have told you so that you will not go astray. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.
John 16:6-8
Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgement.
2 Tim 3:14
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

After reading I starting praying for the world. Without going into details, I will tell you when I finished, a great feeling of accomplishment came upon me.
Praise God

Good morning Protective Angel.
It is morning where I am typing from.

What a wonderful breakfast you served me this morning.
God bless you, I thank Him for you too.
I want to share with you what the breakfast you served brought new to my mind, even though I thought I understood all there was to understand from those passages:

God created man/us for two reasons that I can find recorded in His words to men, our bibles.
To tend, shepard or steward this planet His creation, and to tend, shepard or steward all of His creations that dwell on it with us.
And (an in my mind, more importantly), we were created to worship, to please Him, to bring observable honor to His name in the sight of His other creations.

Then I think of Christ's teachings/corrections that all seem to center on correcting us as to what type of worship our Father desires from us.
"Spiritual worship" the type of worship that is not recognized by those who do not love Him in the way He defines to us what loving Him involves.

It is easy for us to worship by praising His name in the sight of our fellows, but Christ teaches me from me studying His every word over an over again, that it is not easy to worship Him in spirit, the type of worship that brings honor to His name in the sight of His creations.

Bingo !

In times when we are in dry and barren or lonely places, those places where we assume God has forsaken us because He allows us to be in those environments...

Those places are where God intentionally put us, put us to give us an opportunity to worship Him in spirit, the type of worship which He desire, the type of worship which pleases Him, the type of worship he accepts and the type of worship which causes His angels in heaven to sing praises to His name.
Rather than worshiping Him in our fallen flesh.

When we worship Him in our bad, dry, barren seasons... that is "worshiping Him in the spirit"
That worship is the worship our Father desires, the worship He says pleases Him, the worship He says is a sweet fragrance to Him.

When we only worship Him in our good seasons, then we have only been worshiping in a way that He does not desire, in a way that does not please Him.
We were created to please Him, but we cannot please Him from our flesh, we have to rise from our fallen physical circumstances through spiritual discernment.

Our bad seasons are brought upon us for us to have opportunity to practice worshiping Him in spirit, which He requires of us.


Father bless those who look to you, but have mercy on all of us to glorify your name.

[moltenflower]

Much is happening on the world stage presently. Pray for discernment to see the truth of it. Much is being driven by the exploitation of emotion. Pray that the Lord tell you what is truly happening, else you'll be deceived.

blessings,

Watchman

Amen! Praying continually and waiting expectantly for my Lord Jesus to come...whether He comes in my lifetime or not, I will still eagerly expect Him

[Watchman]

The discernment about which I posted was discernment of spirits. There is an evil spirit of religion, as well as a multitude of other evil spirits behind much of what is occuring today in the world.

W

[MoreMercy]

The discernment about which I posted was discernment of spirits. There is an evil spirit of religion, as well as a multitude of other evil spirits behind much of what is occuring today in the world.

W

Maybe me and you differ in our definition of spirit.

The Father, the Son and their Spirit, all three are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same "common spirit" of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things, have the same goals toward an end result(s).

The devil and his following troop of fallen angels also have one "common spirit" in that they have identical goals, all of them are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same "spirit" of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things and end results.
So that the "spirit" behind our recent current events and our historical events too are all being led or moved by that said spirit not separate spirits but one spirit in that it is a shared or common goal of the many different agents(the devils following fallen angels) who move and operate from that same "common spirit" to affect or effect our recent current events and our historical events too.


Here is where maybe me and you disagree as to what a spirit is ?

A fleshly example of spirit would be a sport's team all are of one "spirit" (a spirit to win) they all have as individuals the same desire for the same outcome
...Or a medical team in the midst of a surgery are (hopefully are) all in one spirit (a spirit to succeed in the outcome of the surgery) they all individually have the same desire for the same outcome.
...Or several employees at a work place all join in to purchase joint lotery tickets are/will be in the same spirit desiring the same outcome/results. They all individually have the same desire for the same outcome.

In each example they are joined in "spirit" as one in "spirit", but they are still separate individual living beings.

Just as: God the Father, the Son and their Holy Spirit all three desire, like and dislike the same things and also desire and work toward the same outcomes/results.
all three are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same spirit of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things and results.

When or if we are re-born from above, then we should have evidence in us that we now share the same desire, likes and dislikes as God and should also be working toward the same outcome or results as He does.
Otherwise we show evidence that we do not have God's "spirit"



Father bless those who look to you, but have mercy on all of us to glorify your name.

[Watchman]

Angels were created to be ministering spirits. About one third of them fell. They are individual spirits and are evil. They have a like 'spirit' with regard to their natures, but they are all minions of satan.

W

[Protective Angel]

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

John 10:15-18
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father - and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life - only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.

John 10:19-21
At these words the Jews were again divided. Many of them said, He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him? But others said, These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?

Are you called a nutcase when you talk to non-believers about your experiences with God. Sound familar?
We know who's speaking. I pray that world leaders (known and hidden) know Gods love and the wrath that he will bring, so they will still have time to be saved.

[MoreMercy]

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

John 10:15-18
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father - and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life - only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.

John 10:19-21
At these words the Jews were again divided. Many of them said, He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him? But others said, These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?

Are you called a nutcase when you talk to non-believers about your experiences with God. Sound familar?
We know who's speaking. I pray that world leaders (known and hidden) know Gods love and the wrath that he will bring, so they will still have time to be saved.

I intentionally waited two days before I offered my reply to Watchman's taking exception to what I shared in my definition of spirit is.
I have been waiting to see if anyone else brought anything to share, and praise God one of His servants showed up and confirmed to me that the drought that Amos speaks of is not yet come to visit man again.

I see and hear His voice with you, in the passages that you shared from John ch 10 are supporting that there are now, and always has been only two spirits at work in man's environments.

Angels were created to be ministering spirits. About one third of them fell.
They are individual spirits and are evil.
They have a like 'spirit' with regard to their natures, but they are all minions of satan.

W

From the post where I gave my definition of what "spirit" is, I reposted it again below but, I high-lighted in red the portions I hoped would address the exception that you have taken to my definition of spirit(singular) -vs- sprits(plural):

Maybe me and you differ in our definition of spirit.

The Father, the Son and their Spirit, all three are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same "common spirit" of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things, have the same goals toward an end result(s).

The devil and his following troop of fallen angels also have one "common spirit" in that they have identical goals, all of them are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same "spirit" of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things and end results.
So that the "spirit" behind our recent current events and our historical events too are all being led or moved by that said spirit not separate spirits but one spirit in that it is a shared or common goal of the many different agents (the devils following fallen angels) who move and operate from that same "common spirit" to affect or effect our recent current events and our historical events too.


Here is where maybe me and you disagree as to what a spirit is ?

A fleshly example of spirit would be a sport's team all are of one "spirit" (a spirit to win) they all have as individuals the same desire for the same outcome
...Or a medical team in the midst of a surgery are (hopefully are) all in one spirit (a spirit to succeed in the outcome of the surgery) they all individually have the same desire for the same outcome.
...Or several employees at a work place all join in to purchase joint lotery tickets are/will be in the same spirit desiring the same outcome/results. They all individually have the same desire for the same outcome.

In each example they are joined in "spirit" as one in "spirit", but they are still separate individual living beings.

Just as: God the Father, the Son and their Holy Spirit all three desire, like and dislike the same things and also desire and work toward the same outcomes/results.
all three are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same spirit of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things and results.

When or if we are re-born from above, then we should have evidence in us that we now share the same desire, likes and dislikes as God and should also be working toward the same outcome or results as He does.
Otherwise we show evidence that we do not have God's "spirit"

[Watchman]

Ahhhhh, I see there be a wee bit o' the disagreement. Pray gimme time to digest thy words and reply!

[Watchman]

From the post where I gave my definition of what "spirit" is, I reposted it again below but, I high-lighted in red the portions I hoped would address the exception that you have taken to my definition of spirit(singular) -vs- sprits(plural):

Maybe me and you differ in our definition of spirit.

The Father, the Son and their Spirit, all three are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same "common spirit" of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things, have the same goals toward an end result(s).

The devil and his following troop of fallen angels also have one "common spirit" in that they have identical goals, all of them are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same "spirit" of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things and end results.
So that the "spirit" behind our recent current events and our historical events too are all being led or moved by that said spirit not separate spirits but one spirit in that it is a shared or common goal of the many different agents (the devils following fallen angels) who move and operate from that same "common spirit" to affect or effect our recent current events and our historical events too.


Here is where maybe me and you disagree as to what a spirit is ?

A fleshly example of spirit would be a sport's team all are of one "spirit" (a spirit to win) they all have as individuals the same desire for the same outcome
...Or a medical team in the midst of a surgery are (hopefully are) all in one spirit (a spirit to succeed in the outcome of the surgery) they all individually have the same desire for the same outcome.
...Or several employees at a work place all join in to purchase joint lotery tickets are/will be in the same spirit desiring the same outcome/results. They all individually have the same desire for the same outcome.

In each example they are joined in "spirit" as one in "spirit", but they are still separate individual living beings.

Just as: God the Father, the Son and their Holy Spirit all three desire, like and dislike the same things and also desire and work toward the same outcomes/results.
all three are identical in how they work or operate because they have the same spirit of likes and dislikes and all desire the same things and results.

When or if we are re-born from above, then we should have evidence in us that we now share the same desire, likes and dislikes as God and should also be working toward the same outcome or results as He does.
Otherwise we show evidence that we do not have God's "spirit"

Hi MM,

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this. Between having surgery, changes at work, and so much to do outside around my place, I’ve had precious little computer time.

Re: the definition of spirit, it seems to me we are comparing oranges and apples. The examples you gave above regard attitudes and pov’s many hold in common, hence they are all of the same spirit…they all want the same things, all work toward the same ends. That is one way the word is used in scripture; however, there is another way spirit is used, and that is as the animating, or living force, that causes one to be alive…the breath of life. Remember, pneuma and ruach mean wind or breath. It is the intangible part of a person that is created in God’s likeness, because He is spirit. Consider these fragments of scripture:

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Proverbs 20:27 The spirit of a man is the lamp of the LORD, Searching all the inner depths of his heart.

Daniel 7:15 I, Daniel, was grieved in my spirit within my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Mark 2:8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts?

Romans 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of His Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers,

There are other examples, but these are, IMO, sufficient to show that a person’s spirit is part of them…not just their attitude, point of view, goals, desires, etc. Just as the angels are ministering spirits and are distinct beings, and just as the fallen angels are demonic spirits and distinct beings, so also are saints spiritual people who share the Spirit of God and who have been given a new spirit & a new heart. We are distinct beings who are being transformed from carnal saints to pneumatikos saints…saints controlled by their spirits, which are one spirit with the Lord. Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." Yes, they are of the same mind and work toward the same end; however, they are also literally one as each is in the other. Likewise, we are one with Christ...which is a reason why scripture uses marriage illustratively so often. We are separate beings, but we are in each other. We are literally seated at the Father's right hand in Christ right now, yet we are also walking the earth.

The examples in the quotes at the top of this post are of like mindedness, while the examples in color, above, are of the part of a person that makes them alive. Make sense?

blessings,

Watchman