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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Christinme View Post
    God is not at this time in the business of condemning the unsaved. Sure there will come the time of judgment, however now is not the time. In the future we will each have to stand before the judgment seat of God and give an account of ourselves.

    And what will be the basis of a good account?
    What would be the basis of a bad account?

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Colight View Post
    If Christ covered the penalty for sin.. how could that sin then be used as a bases of condemnation?
    Would that not be re-judgement of a sin that Christ all ready covered?

    John 1:29
    The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

    Christ Takes away the sin of the world, that would include the sin of the unsaved.

    If Christ takes away their sin, even that of the lost..
    Then how could God throw them into eternal judgement over sin?


    would be logical to ask "Is it sin that is the bases for Gods judgement of man?"
    Yes, sin is what separated us from God. God is righteous and set apart from sin (Holy). He tells us to be holy as well. So He provided a way of Himself for us to be reconciled to Him, but we must (by faith), as has already pointed out, accept it. Otherwise Paul would not need to say in the next verse “…we beg you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.”

    For further consideration: John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

    Again, God is Holy and will have no part in unrighteousness, which is why we are separated from Him. So he provides a way, through Christ, to be reconciled to Him, and in so doing also shows us a better way… love. But we must rather come to the light than stay in the dark. Unfortunately, some people prefer the dark and want little to do with light and love except where they might gain something from it for themselves. They rather enjoy their sinfulness, though it leads to destruction and death.

    Your turn now...

    Do you believe it is something other than unrighteousness that has separated us from God?

    Do you believe it is faith in His love for us and desire and ability to reconcile us to Him, as demonstrated and expressed through Jesus, that justifies us?

    Are you asking questions because some things seem unclear or confusing, or is there some point to your questions that you would like to make?

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Very well stated..

    Do you believe it is something other than unrighteousness that has separated us from God?
    That is the only thing that separates the unbeliever from God.
    Do you believe it is faith in His love for us and desire and ability to reconcile us to Him, as demonstrated and expressed through Jesus, that justifies us?

    Are you asking questions because some things seem unclear or confusing, or is there some point to your questions that you would like to make?

    This was the point I was looking for thru the questions.

    Christ has covered Sin.
    It is that lack of Gods righteousness that separates man from God, so when man turns to Christ..
    The Righteousness of Christ covers man.
    So man is not eternally judged for SIN..for Christ was judged for sin.
    Man is eternally judged for lacking the Righteousness of God, that is given thru Christ.

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Colight View Post
    And what will be the basis of a good account?
    What would be the basis of a bad account?
    Repentance is the key to having ones sins forgiven.... and washed away.

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffweeder View Post
    Repentance is the key to having ones sins forgiven.... and washed away.

    What would be a proper Repentance?

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Colight View Post

    This was the point I was looking for thru the questions.

    Christ has covered Sin.
    It is that lack of Gods righteousness that separates man from God, so when man turns to Christ..
    The Righteousness of Christ covers man.
    So man is not eternally judged for SIN..for Christ was judged for sin.
    Man is eternally judged for lacking the Righteousness of God, that is given thru Christ.
    Oh ok, good. So we are on the same page, then (or reading the same Book, anyway).

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Colight View Post
    What would be a proper Repentance?
    9 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt:
    10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
    11 "The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
    12 'I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.'
    13 "But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!'
    14 "I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."

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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by CIM
    God is not at this time in the business of condemning the unsaved. Sure there will come the time of judgment, however now is not the time. In the future we will each have to stand before the judgment seat of God and give an account of ourselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colight
    And what will be the basis of a good account?
    What would be the basis of a bad account?
    Quote Originally Posted by Colight
    This was the point I was looking for thru the questions.

    Christ has covered Sin.
    It is that lack of Gods righteousness that separates man from God, so when man turns to Christ..
    The Righteousness of Christ covers man.
    So man is not eternally judged for SIN..for Christ was judged for sin.
    Man is eternally judged for lacking the Righteousness of God, that is given thru Christ.
    Matthew 7:1-2 Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

    Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned.

    If we say an unbeliever is condemned for that which we do ourselves how are we doing this: Matthew 5:16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven?
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    Lead me in Your truth and teach me,
    For You are the God of my salvation;
    On You I wait all the day.

    Psalms 25:5
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    Re: Light/light of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Christinme View Post
    Matthew 7:1-2 Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

    Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned.

    If we say an unbeliever is condemned for that which we do ourselves how are we doing this: Matthew 5:16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven?

    No idea where you are trying to say.. perhaps you could lay it out better?

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