Alas, this is neither.Originally Posted by Brother Mark
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Alas, this is neither.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
As righteous as Christ.
Gun control is though and that is what brought it out.
"May the Lamb that was slain receive the just reward for His sufferings." A quote by Moravian missionary that sold himself (along with a friend) into slavery to reach those that the slave owner prevented from hearing the gospel.
May I live for Him and not for me.
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I don't see it as a gun control issue. It's a law enforcement issue. If they arrested him the way the homicide investigator wanted there would be no discussion.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
As righteous as Christ.
Oh man. Sorry for the confusion. I agree with you this incident isn't political. I mean the concept of gun control is. Sorry about that.
I thought in the video he was handcuffed. So it seems someone thought he needed to be arrested. Maybe I didn't see the video right, but wasn't he cuffed? If so, a higher up told the cops to change it.
"May the Lamb that was slain receive the just reward for His sufferings." A quote by Moravian missionary that sold himself (along with a friend) into slavery to reach those that the slave owner prevented from hearing the gospel.
May I live for Him and not for me.
Probably routine to control the situation.
As righteous as Christ.
Can you be cuffed without being arrested?
"May the Lamb that was slain receive the just reward for His sufferings." A quote by Moravian missionary that sold himself (along with a friend) into slavery to reach those that the slave owner prevented from hearing the gospel.
May I live for Him and not for me.
My comment was insensitive and inappropriate. Please accept my apology.
Unhappy is he who mistakes the branch for the tree, the shadow for the substance.
I believe you can be. Reynolds would know for sure.
Unhappy is he who mistakes the branch for the tree, the shadow for the substance.
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[QUOTE=Brother Mark;2828860]Can you be cuffed without being arrested?[/QUOTE
Yes, you can. Depends on departmental procedures and the officers at the scene.
I live here!
Fenris, if the case was a good case, the D.A. would want to prosecute it.
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Then we would have the same incidents involving knives.
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Since when does an officer trump a judge and a District Attorney?
Fenris, this is simple. You do not arrest people if you can not convict them. Period!
I am glad I was not lead detective on the case I referenced earlier or I would not be batting 1000.
When you arrest someone, you have a duty to be sure that person is guilty. Good Cops do not go around locking up people on shaky cases.
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You can be cuffed without being charged with a crime. The courts are all over the place on what actually constitues an "arrest."
Using the most current case law, they are under arrest if the cuffs are on because their freedom of movement has been taken away from them. When the cuffs are on, they are not free to leave. At any time, you can take the cuffs off of them and un-arrest them.
Zimmerman was most likely brought in on the grounds of "investigative detention" which is technically an arrest without charges being filed at the time of the arrest.
Diamondback 2-2
No.
An arrest is where an individual is being restrained and has no freedom of movement. You can, of course, be arrested and not charged, and the actual particulars of what constitutes an arrest can, and often is, challenged in courts.
*edit* Reynolds beat me
The minstrel boy to the war is gone,
In the ranks of death ye will find him;
His father's sword he hath girded on,
And his wild harp slung behind him;
"Land of Song!" said the warrior bard,
"Tho' all the world betray thee,
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee!
Been there -- done that
There is alot of conflicting information as to exactly what happened on that night and honestly it is something to be sorted out by the local police and courts as deemed necessary under the law. The more I hear the less I believe. I know a teen died that night and now the black racists are circling overhead to create a fresh tally of victims of their make believe racial issue. Here we have the likes of Al Sharpton, Loius Farakahn, Jessie Jackson, the black panthers, and even the POTUS, exploiting this kids death in order to fan the flames of hate on a black vs white racial adgenda. By the time this is put to rest many lives will be distroyed by the hate that is festering over this case. Spike Lee tweeted what he thought was Zimmermans address. The address did not belong to Zimmerman but to an elderly couple in their 70s who have to hide for fear of their lives from a blood thirsty linch mob of angry black terrorists whipped up into a feeding frenzy. Here is the black panthers offering up a bounty on Zimmermans head and nothing is being said nor done to them. Obama claims Treyvon to be a son -- really? Eric Holder is just going to sit on his hands and look the other way AGAIN? with bounty prices on Zimmermans head and such a blatent display of black concentric racisim somebody owes the New Orlenes Saints coaching staff and the KKK a big fat apology. Racisim is evil wether it comes from the black panthers or the KKK it all has the same stink to it. It is really sad to see the evil exploits going on over this issue all to further divide America and take away the second amendment rights of this countrys citizens. I see this whole thing as a smoke screen laid out by the left to suck all the oxygen out of the room so that there is no media space for issues that truely affect the lives of every American. Important issues like high gas prices, Obama care, Obamas failed energy policy all can be swept aside while the whole country tears its self apart over Treyvons death. - - - - Dravenhawk
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