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    Confusion early on in Genesis

    Confusion starts almost immediately with the Bible in the first chapter of Genesis. This confusion is regarding man and woman, specifically woman.

    The first mention of man is in Genesis 1:26 - 'And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...' Now, in Genesis 1:27 it says, '...male AND FEMALE he created them.' In Genesis 1:31, God saw every thing he had made and it was very good. Then it says, the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

    Genesis 2:1 begins by saying that the heavens and the earth were finished. Genesis 2:2 and so on begins talking about the seventh day, how it was made holy, etc.

    Genesis 2:8 says, 'and there he put the man he had formed,' meaning Adam in Eden. There is no mention of Eve, of Woman, who should have already been created by the words of Genesis 1:27. In fact, woman's creation is in Genesis 2:22, after the sixth day in which female should have been created, and after man, Adam, was placed in Eden and in need of a helpmate.

    Eve is supposed to be the first woman, and woman was supposedly created on the sixth day, yet Eve actually shows up after the sixth and seventh day, after Adam had been put into the garden of Eden, in which God planted.

    How does this make any sense at all?

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    The two accounts aren't meant to be read chronologically. They're looking at the same act of creation from entirely different perspectives.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by markedward View Post
    The two accounts aren't meant to be read chronologically. They're looking at the same act of creation from entirely different perspectives.
    That's the same as saying, "I made a sandwich first and then after making the sandwich I made soup" and "I made soup first then after the soup I made a sandwich." and claiming chronology isn't important, it's just two different perspectives. There is a clear chronological contradiction in the two statements and there are multiple similar examples between Gen 1 and Gen 2 as to what God did before he did something else etc.

    OP is clearly onto something important.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Both accounts read chronologically.

    Quote Originally Posted by markedward View Post
    The two accounts aren't meant to be read chronologically. They're looking at the same act of creation from entirely different perspectives.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Cripps View Post
    Both accounts read chronologically.

    I agree. It's just a big pill to swallow from the standard, historic way of understanding those chapters.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    I doubt that the author of Genesis would contradict himself in his second chapter.
    I would say its complimentary.

    It is already stated in Gen 1 that when God made Man on the sixth day, he made them male and female.
    Gen 2 simply adds more details on what happened on the sixth day.......God creates land animals and then he creates the male. God decides on a nice piece of real estate to put the man, and God takes the time to show him all the animals-(God took Adam to the zoo ) Adam sees pairs of animals ( male and female ) and wonders where is other half is. God then completes his creation of Man. Adam is ecstatic, and there was evening and morning the sixth day, and all was good.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffweeder View Post
    I doubt that the author of Genesis would contradict himself in his second chapter.
    I would say its complimentary.
    He wouldn't of course but most people's renderings of the two chapters leave it very contradicting.



    It is already stated in Gen 1 that when God made Man on the sixth day, he made them male and female.
    Gen 2 simply adds more details on what happened on the sixth day
    Nope. Gen 2 isn't about Gen 1 at all.




    .......God creates land animals and then he creates the male.
    That happens in Gen 1, but in Gen 2 animals are created after man, not before.



    God decides on a nice piece of real estate to put the man, and God takes the time to show him all the animals-(God took Adam to the zoo ) Adam sees pairs of animals ( male and female ) and wonders where is other half is. God then completes his creation of Man. Adam is ecstatic, and there was evening and morning the sixth day, and all was good.
    Adam didn't exist on the 6th day.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by ewq1938 View Post
    He wouldn't of course but most people's renderings of the two chapters leave it very contradicting.


    Big mistake




    Nope. Gen 2 isn't about Gen 1 at all.


    Gen 2 compliments what the author has established in Chap 1

    That happens in Gen 1, but in Gen 2 animals are created after man, not before.




    Doesnt say that, it reiterates what God did in chap 1, being he formed the land animals, and then he made Adam.

    Adam didn't exist on the 6th day.


    God saw Adam and eve and said all is good..then there was eveng and morning ..a sixth day.
    Chap 2 begins with God seeing all that he had done during those 6 days and resting the next day.
    .................................................. .....

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffweeder View Post
    That happens in Gen 1, but in Gen 2 animals are created after man, not before.




    Doesnt say that
    Have you ever read it?

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by ewq1938 View Post
    Have you ever read it?
    ....Ive been trying to explain my opinion about Gen 1 and Gen 2 for a few posts.
    What kind of fool do you take me for, thinking that i would try to explain something that i wasnt even bothered reading???

    Fair go...i just might be right.
    The Author of Genesis refers to an earlier statement he made ( in chap 1 ), about the creation of animals and Man. It seems ludicrous me that he would contradict the order and made himself to like a fool.
    The author simply reminds in chap 2 that God formed the animals, as per chap1, and brings these animals to Adams attention, not that he formed the animals while Adam was looking on in Eden. God was bringing the already created animal kingdom to Adams attention, before he finished his creating Man, male and female.......God left the best till last.

    The world was created for us to dwell in...............when all was ready for man, he created him, and rested..

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffweeder View Post
    ....Ive been trying to explain my opinion about Gen 1 and Gen 2 for a few posts.
    What kind of fool do you take me for, thinking that i would try to explain something that i wasnt even bothered reading???
    I said that because obviously animals are created before man in Gen 1 but man is created first in Gen 2 before animals.

    **Hello contradiction** ONLY if you think the two chapters are the same events.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by ewq1938 View Post
    I said that because obviously animals are created before man in Gen 1 but man is created first in Gen 2 before animals.

    **Hello contradiction** ONLY if you think the two chapters are the same events.
    I dont think God created the animals and Man twice.....so........The author knows what he is stating, which is the word of God. God doesnt contradict himself.

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffweeder View Post
    I dont think God created the animals and Man twice.....so........The author knows what he is stating, which is the word of God. God doesnt contradict himself.
    GREAT non-answer!

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    Re: Confusion early on in Genesis

    Quote Originally Posted by ewq1938 View Post
    GREAT non-answer!
    What was the Qu?

    Didnt post 55 come across as my answer.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffweeder View Post

    Didnt post 55 come across as my answer.?
    No .

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