Back from camping, had a great time, wasn't too cold, but I'm still far from home, and will be for a long time I guess.
You forgot to answer this one
"For everyone that wrongfully used eye for eye in how they treated their neighbor."
but I see what you mean. It was incomplete. As I said earlier, even the law said not to hold grudges and love our neighbor. The law on our heart says the same. Kinda hard to imagine it saying eye for eye. So of course giving forgiveness is for all, for all time.
"Yes, I agree with these words of yours Noeb;'Jesus took the law higher..' much higher, it has been changed, fufilled, higher is of a different hieght, DIFFERENT. I am glad we eventually agree Noeb."
"60mph and 80mph are both measured in mph."
Jesus took one law (for example adultery), and showed what it always meant. He didn't change anything. He could not. He said he didn't come to change it. Adultery was always lust. The one law (measured 60 mph), taken higher (80 mph) is still measured in mph. Doing both makes you guilty of adultery (speeding).
comentary of mt 5 38 geneva study bible
'Mt5:38 9 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
(9) He shows ... that we may in no wise render evil for evil, but rather suffer double injury, and do well to them that are our deadly enemies. '
For the tenth time, yes I disagree. I don't see it, which is why I have asked you where.
It has been great reading through the different responses and understanding my own views more clearly as a result. I believe that God sent Jesus, His only begotten son, to be the ULTIMATE sacrifice for our sins. When He died the curtain in the temple separating the Holy of Holies from the Holy area symbolized that we can now have an intimate relationship with God. When Jesus came he taught us the meaning of the law. I believe that Jesus' commands are for people of all times. He gave us the Holy Spirit (part of the Trinity and therefore ONE with God the Father and Jesus) to help us follow the Word and live in holiness. I believe that Jesus' commands may appear to be different than the Old Testament but are not. The law is written upon our hearts. We read the Word, listen to the Holy Spirit, and follow Jesus' ways because ultimately we have chosen and therefore yearn to follow Him. I do not believe that we are free from living the law. If this was the case following God into heaven would not be as hard as a camel walking through the needle of an eye. We are ALL in a state of refining and pruning into holiness. The interpretation of the law can appear murky at times, but when we seek God's Word, are lead by the Holy Spirit the nontruth in us can break free from our lives. This is also why we bring all thoughts captive before the Lord- seeking His council and wisdom through the Word.
I believe that all peoples are responsible for knowing the Truth of God- I believe this is why we are sent to be the light of the world. Even when we as Christ followers do not share God works. I think of the miraculous stories I have heard from our brothers and sisters in the Middle East. Many received dreams of Jesus and decided to follow him! God is at work and we have the privilege of being used by Him for the greater Kingdom.
You always thought what was what John 8:32?
Can you see now, it doesn't say the government?
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