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    His servant are leaven, His friend are not. Cut stones are leaven, uncut ones are not

    Howdy folks.
    Is leaven still in the house, it is Passover.

    One need not walk in my God's Spirit to be able to serve Him. He uses all of us daily to serve Himself whether we are obedient creatures or disobedient creatures we all still serve Him daily.
    Any man, king or rebel can be used by God and be His servant.
    None of us need to be saved by Christ's saving faith nor be a just or righteous man through the law to be my God's servant.
    What determines if we are God's servant is only one thing: If God uses us to work His will on the earth then we are His servants, all of us are His servants because He uses all of us daily.

    What qualifies us as Christs Jesus's friends or His brethren and what makes us righteous in His Father's eyes, what saves and restores us, what gives us a co-inheritance with God's first born is: John 15, Matt 12, Mark 3 and also John 5 and John 10.

    Leaven = His servant or servants are saved and made righteous because of who they served while they worked and lived days on the earth. Get that leaven out of the house !

    Unleavened
    = The ones Christ qualifies and names as His friends/obedient servants, the ones who He titles as His mother, His sisters or His brothers, those are the ones who are made righteous by and through Christ's saving faith and not our own faith, lest we should boast.

    These qualifications are found in John 15, Matt 12 and Mark 3,

    Those are the ones He says will hear and respond to His voice , those are the ones who will be saved, they will be the ones who will enter eternity with Him and co-share in His birthright/inheritance for ever, found in John 5 and John 10.

    Our works determine our rewards in eternity, our works do not determine if we get restored to eternal fellowship with God/saved.
    If we will be restored to eternal fellowship with God and saved from His wrath, it will only come to us by Jesus acknowledging us before His Father on That Great Day.
    God only sent His Spirit to us once after Christ returned to the Father folks, that is it, He does not send it to us again after it has already been sent.
    If we encounter His Spirit now we will not encounter it coming to us from above, we will only encounter it where it operates now folks, and it only operates coming out of His obedient servants.
    God's Spirit was sent to His obedient servants, Christ's friends, Christ's brethren once, after that it only comes out of the ones who qualify as Christ's friends and brethren/mothers, sisters and brothers.



    Each time when the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob commanded our biblical patriarchs to build an altar unto Himself where He desired them to make or leave offerings, sacrifices and prayers to Himself from. Each time He commanded them to build an altar, He commanded them to build it with uncut stones.

    Do you know why God commanded them to use only those stones,
    or does your churches leadership know or teach why God commanded those biblical patriarchs to build His altars from only un-cut stones, only un-hewn stones, only stones that have in noway been altered or modified polished or crafted by man in anyway, those are the only stones that God commands His altars be built from.... Do you know why or does your church teach why ?

    Leavened= hewn/cut/carved stones, altered stones carved and polished to fit perfectly into what man thinks God altar and even His servants should look like. Get that leaven out of the house.

    Unleavened=
    only uncut stones/unhewn stones for His altars, found in Duet 27, Josh 8, and Exd 20.



    The Passover, the holiday that Jesus observed/kept and was obedient to annually while He walked on the earth with us.
    ...You know, the holiday that the modern church's leadership teaches our children they need not keep or observe nor even be obedient to the original reason the holidays were established.

    Faith that saves
    can never be taken from, it cannot change either, it can only be corrected or fulfilled.
    And, only Christ can correct or fulfill it,because he is the only acceptable and obedient faith that can be offered that pleases God the Father, and the only thing that can save us to be restored back into eternal fellowship with God is that faith said obediently faith of Christ Jesus that He demonstrated for us by His life lived every moment of every hour of everyday of every year that Jesus Christ lived, taught, corrected and fulfilled that saving faith while He walked in flesh among us close to 2000 years ago.

    Only Christ Himself is the head of each and every communities church.
    Make room for only Jesus as the corrector and fulfiller of all of God's words, His Father's words do not change nor do His.
    Go and read the stories of our biblical patriarchs in the books of Exodus and Leviticus and allow God to show and tell you about the holidays and Sabbaths He established for His people in those short books and why He wants us to teach our children about the God of our salvation.
    Teaching our children by observing these holidays in the sight of our children from generation to generation observing and keeping each Sabbath and holiday that God has established.
    ...You know the same holidays and Sabbaths that Jesus our Lord, priest and King kept and observed obediently every year and season while He walked on the earth with us.

    For some of us if our earthly father or our legal guardian did not keep or observe Passover while we grew up under them, if our parents or legal guardian did not observe those holidays that Jesus the Christ kept and observed while He walked on the earth with us, then that is a good thing folks. God has guarded you from the leaven that the devil hides so effectively in the church and also attaches to and sends home that same leaven with our weak sick blind and cowardly fathers and guardians.

    Leaven= Doctrines (plural) Get that leaven out of the house.

    Unleavened= Doctrine (singular) found in Matt 22 and in Luke 10 straight from the lips of Jesus the Christ not altered, not taken from or added to or in anyway changed or altered by man.



    Father bless those who look to you, but have mercy on all of us to glorify your name.

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    Re: His servant are leaven, His friend are not. Cut stones are leaven, uncut ones are

    I got lost at the beginning because of a definition issue.

    Servants hear instructions and obey. If you are not obeying an instruction from your master, you are not a servant.

    When you had no option to disobey, you can not be disobedient; you are merely a pawn.

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    Re: His servant are leaven, His friend are not. Cut stones are leaven, uncut ones are

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo View Post
    I got lost at the beginning because of a definition issue.

    Servants hear instructions and obey. If you are not obeying an instruction from your master, you are not a servant.

    When you had no option to disobey, you can not be disobedient; you are merely a pawn.
    Hi, Boo.

    Of all of His creatures who's ordained habitat is the earth, the only one of us who have no other options other than to obey Him are the ones who fill what Christ qualified as His friends who were once only servants.
    His servants that do not qualify, they have every option to not obey and their will will not be overruled by God until the day after Christ returns to restore all things.

    Jonah was picked/chose by God, Jonah did choose other options other than obeying God when God told Him to go and speak for Him, God even named Jonah His friend because God shared and shares His plans with Jonah.
    (Read the story again, please !) Jonah obeyed because God picked Him, Jonah obeyed because God chose Him.
    Once God chose Jonah to speak for Him, then Jonah being Christ friend by Christ's definition of His friends , then Jonah even though he acted upon other options rather than obey, he still obeyed because God picked Him.
    When God speaks a word long ago or today, whether creatures or created things know or hear that word spoke by God, those creatures and created things will serve and fulfill the words God spoke, We all are His servants, the disobedient ones and the obedient ones too because all of are spoken into existence to be His servants. We need not be Christ friend to be His or His father's servant.
    Christ's friends(obedient servants) will be restore back to eternal fellowship with Him.
    The (disobedient servants) will serve Him too but will not be in eternal fellowship with Him as they do.

    If the king of Assyria who is not Christ's or His Father's friend will chose an option that does not fill God's word in their day, then God will use another king to serve Him that day on the earth and God need not speak His commands nor show His plans to either of those kings to have them serve Him that day.
    Or God will send an holy/complete/full/lacking nothing angels to work His will and fill His word for that day, if no servant upon the earth can or will that day.

    All souls have free will, all of the disobedient and the obedient both have free will until their dust is separated from the spirit of life breathed into them. God says there is good in every man, that good is that spirit of life breathed into that dust.
    His friend are His servant too and they are composed of that same breath and that same dust His servants are, but just me being His servant does not mean I am His friend.

    And the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground, and then breathed into the man's nostrils the breath of life and then the man became a living soul.
    What makes one a friend rather than a servant is:
    if we are lead by that spirit by God to serve Him, then we are His friend and servant.
    Or if we arelead by that dust by God to serve Him, then we are only His servant.
    Servants serve God by being lead by the dust in them. (leavened)
    Friends serve God by being lead by the spirit in them. (unleavened)
    Cain was a servant only, Able was a friend and servant.
    Esau was a servant only, Jacob was a friend and servant.
    Christ picked/chose Judas, Judas was only a servant of Christ, the other's Jesus picked/chose were His servants and friends, because He shared His Father's plans with them.

    The Assyrian king and his army that captured Israel and took them out of their allotment an into captivity, that king and his army were God's servants. But, that king did not hear any of God's instructions nor did God share His plans with them, they were only His servants.

    The Babylonian king and his army that captured Judah and took them out of their allotment an into captivity, that king and his army were God's servants. But that king nor any of His army heard any instruction from God to obey God but they still worked God's will on the earth by capturing Judah and taking them into captivity... They were only His servants.

    The devil and demons are servants when Jesus or the many who came and come after Him say/order a demon or the devil back or away or cast them out of a place.

    When Jesus allowed the demon named legion/fully functional/capable/nothing lacking, when Jesus allowed that demon to enter into a large pen of swine on a hillside. Them swine were God's servants when them swine ran off a cliff into the sea after that demon entered them.

    There are many, many more examples in our bibles with out kings and kings armies or demons and the devil in them, but: Those kings and all of their armies have souls, souls that heard no instructions nor did God or His angels share any of God's plans with them, but those souls worked God's will on the earth by God leading them to work His will on the earth by using their own dust's lust, used them as His servants to teach and chasten Jacob's children to fulfill His word and will on the earth.
    God did not lead that king to do God's will on the earth with instructions nor by sharing His plans with that king or his army.

    The sea that remained level until Jacobs children needed a path to escape Pharaoh and his army. when that sea parted/did not remain level, then that sea was God's servant, that sea has a body but that sea has neither ears or a soul.

    I have a soul and ears too to hear His instructions. But, when I am not walking in my God's Spirit (listening to His instructions) and I still do deeds that work God's will on the earth I am still God's servant, but I am not Jesus's friend when I am not walking in His Spirit/(listening to His instructions)

    Jhn 15:10 Also found in Matt 12, and Mark 3, three of the four gospels.
    If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
    11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and [that] your joy might be full.
    12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
    13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
    14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
    15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
    16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.



    His servants are leaven, His friends who were once only servants are unleavened.

    The ones Jesus calls friends, God shares His plans with them to lead them, He need not lead them by their own lust any longer.
    When I am not walking in God's Spirit, then God has to lead me by my own lust to use me to serve Him on the earth.
    When I walk in His Spirit He shares with me and I am allowed to partake from Him, He also shares His plans with me and those things He shares with me are what leads me to do His will on the earth and also afford me the opportunity to become eternally restored back to Him because I am Jesus's friend by His definition found in Jhn 15:10, Matt 12, and Mark 3, and not by my definition.



    Cut or hewn stones(doctrines) to build His altar are leaven, uncut stones(doctrine) to build His altar are unleavened.
    Each time when the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob commanded our biblical patriarchs to build an altar unto Himself where He desired them to make or leave offerings, sacrifices and prayers to Himself from. Each time He commanded them to build an altar, He commanded them to build it with uncut stones.

    Do you know why God commanded them to use only those stones, or does your churches leadership know or teach why God commanded those biblical patriarchs to build His altars from only un-cut stones, only un-hewn stones, only stones that have in noway been altered or modified polished or crafted by man in anyway, those are the only stones that God commands His altars be built from.... Do you know why or does your church teach why ?

    Leavened = hewn/cut/carved stones, altered stones carved and polished to fit perfectly into what man thinks God altar and even His servants should look like. Get that leaven out of the house.
    Unleavened = only uncut stones/unhewn stones for His altars, found in Duet 27, Josh 8, and Exd 20.



    Doctrines(plural) are leaven, the great doctrine/command(singular) found in Matt 22 and in Luke 10 is unleavened.
    Only Christ Himself is the head of each and every communities church.
    Make room for only Jesus as the corrector and fulfiller of all of God's words, His Father's words do not change nor do His.
    Go and read the stories of our biblical patriarchs in the books of Exodus and Leviticus and allow God to show and tell you about the holidays and Sabbaths He established for His people in those short books and why He wants us to teach our children about the God of our salvation.
    Teaching our children by observing these holidays in the sight of our children from generation to generation observing and keeping each Sabbath and holiday that God has established.
    ...You know the same holidays and Sabbaths that Jesus our Lord, priest and King kept and observed obediently every year and season while He walked on the earth with us.

    For some of us if our earthly father or our legal guardian did not keep or observe Passover while we grew up under them, if our parents or legal guardian did not observe those holidays that Jesus the Christ kept and observed while He walked on the earth with us, then that is a good thing folks. God has guarded you from the leaven that the devil hides so effectively in the church and also attaches to and sends home that same leaven with our weak sick blind and cowardly fathers and guardians.

    Leaven = Doctrines (plural) Get that leaven out of the house.
    Unleavened = Doctrine (singular) found in Matt 22 and in Luke 10 straight from the lips of Jesus the Christ not altered, not taken from or added to or in anyway changed or altered by man.



    The Passover, the holiday that Jesus observed/kept and was obedient to annually while He walked on the earth with us.

    You know, the holiday that the modern church's leadership teaches our children they need not keep or observe nor even be obedient to the original reason and purpose that and the other holidays were established.

    Faith that saves can never be taken from, it cannot change either, it can only be corrected or fulfilled by Christ.
    That saving faith can not dismiss or change reasons or purposes for anything God has already established.
    Only Christ can correct, change or fulfill it, because He is the only acceptable and obedient faith that can be offered that pleases God the Father, and the only thing that can save us to be restored back into eternal fellowship with God.
    The complete/holy/full/lacking-nothing obedient faith of Christ Jesus that He demonstrated for us by His life lived every moment of every hour of everyday of every year that He walked, taught, corrected and fulfilled His Father's words, that saving faith is the only thing that is worthy to change, correct or fill any reasons or purpose for anything God has already established like Passover and the other Sabbaths, or establishing new doctrines other than Christ and Christ alone.

    All of the words Christ spoke 2000 years ago will be fulfilled by His servants whether His friends or not.
    And all of the words His Father spoke 6000 years ago will also be fulfilled by His servants whether His friends or not.
    If not then God says, not I say, but God says: He will raise stones from the ground to serve and fill those word He and His only begotten Son spoke and still speak.
    And I say: that if My God need use those stones to serve Him then those stones will also receive our co-inheritance and will also co-rule the earth with Christ in our stead after He returns to restore all things.



    Open eyes and ears Father, please.
    Bless those who look to you, but have mercy on all of us for we live, eat and drink in the second most wicked and second most evil generation, so evil and wicked that I can almost see Noah and I can almost smell the pitch and the timber of the arch you instructed him to build.
    Father please send Amos's or Elijah's eyes to your servants today.
    Last edited by MoreMercy; Apr 9th 2012 at 08:51 PM. Reason: additions

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    Re: His servant are leaven, His friend are not. Cut stones are leaven, uncut ones are

    My brother, I cannot accept that all men are servants of God. Many are the servants of Satan. We are told that man cannot have two masters.

    In one place, you state that all have free will, but in another you state:
    Of all of His creatures who's ordained habitat is the earth, the only one of us who have no other options other than to obey Him are the ones who fill what Christ qualified as His friends who were once only servants.
    I cannot follow your logic because I cannot follow your definition. Maybe the word servant has a different meaning to me than it does to you?

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    Re: His servant are leaven, His friend are not. Cut stones are leaven, uncut ones are

    There is no logic in it that I can find either Boo, but just because I can or cannot find where to rest my logic on, gives no weight nor takes any weight away from truth of His word recorded.

    Topical study of "friend, neighbor, brethren(brother-sister-mother) and servant" in the old an new testaments will say more than I can ever.


    God bless.

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