Well, there's my problem.Originally Posted by vlad
Yes
No
It is not so black and white
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Well, there's my problem.
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Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
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NO - it was translated by men into English,use Etra Biblical resources like a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance...people who take it at face value and literally are most times lost and fallen away and DO NOT WANT TO BE CORRECTED!
If it was supposed to be taken literally...
Have you seen the devil lately?Better lock your front door,we have a devil described as lion roaming the earth....
1 Peter 5:8e sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Was Cain driven to another Planet? Did he get in a rocket ship and leave earth?
Genesis 4:14:Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Were the Scribes and Pharisees literal serpents?
Matthew 23:33:Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Were the followers of Jesus literal sheep?
John 10:27:My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Were there literal giants in the earth?It must have been difficult for the women.....
Genesis 6:4:There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Did they actually cover him with his own blood?
Leviticus 20:9:For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
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Either you are making excuses or you do not understand the literal interpretation method.NO - it was translated by men into English,use Etra Biblical resources like a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance...people who take it at face value and literally are most times lost and fallen away and DO NOT WANT TO BE CORRECTED!
If it was supposed to be taken literally...
Have you seen the devil lately?Better lock your front door,we have a devil described as lion roaming the earth....
1 Peter 5:8
Was Cain driven to another Planet? Did he get in a rocket ship and leave earth?
Genesis 4:14:Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Were the Scribes and Pharisees literal serpents?
Matthew 23:33:Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Were the followers of Jesus literal sheep?
John 10:27:My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Were there literal giants in the earth?It must have been difficult for the women.....
Genesis 6:4:There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Did they actually cover him with his own blood?
Leviticus 20:9:For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
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Again, there's my problem. I just do not believe that blood actually cries out...
Gen 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
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Again Either you are making excuses or you do not understand the literal interpretation method.
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Everything Jesus spoke was in parables (Matthew 13:34), intended to cause confusion (Matthew 13:35) upon anyone who did not already know God's word before they heard Jesus speak it (John 5:30,37-38).
The disciples of Christ were men who had studied for their day of the coming Christ, and notced in Matthew13:10 that Christ's words that were literally clear to them "..BY THE SAME WORD..(2ndPeter 3:7)" were parablized non-sense which the multitudes only thought they could understand (Matthew 13:11-13,14; Isaiah 6:9-10).
If you want to know what the scriptures literally say then stop considering every liar's WORMWOOD (Jeremiah 9:14-15) and literally read it yourself (Jeremiah 31:33-34; HEBREWS 10:15-16,25; 2ndTimothy 3:15,16-17; 4:3,3,3,3,3,3,3).
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No it wasn't. Jesus did teach in parables at times but not everything He spoke was a parable.
Which says nothing about causing confusion.intended to cause confusion (Matthew 13:35)
It was not about who knew it or not it was about who believed it.upon anyone who did not already know God's word before they heard Jesus speak it (John 5:30,37-38).
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Wasn't it that Jesus began to teach in parables after the Pharisees plotted to destroy Him after He healed on the sabbath? I would think it a judgement of their rejection of Him.
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“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." Matthew 7:13-14
(All Scripture quoted is from NKJV unless otherwise noted)
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Almost, everything Christ taught to the masses, Pharisees, Sadducees and even the common people was a parable designed to hide the meaning...
Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
But He did teach His disciples in plain language.
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What is the ''literal interpretation method''?
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In my opinion:
Fundamentalists, usually, are more dedicated to the practices necessary to be called a Christian. That calls for the strict obedience of all of Christ's Commands.
I believe that if you read the Bible (KJV or Douay) and work through the parts that appear to contradict each other you will gain certain reference points that will guide you.
For instance, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is really "Do Not Murder" since some killing is required by the Bible.
Also, the knowledge that God, because of the rules put in place for the earth in the beginning, does not change, can be a useful guidepost.
If you think of the whole Bible as being written for Christians to use as a reference, it would be helpful to you.
GAL 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
MT 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
As opposed to the bad man that does nothing?
AMOS 6:3 Ye that put far away the evil day, and cause the seat of violence to come near;
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Please note, this is one Fundamentalist's point of view, the New Testament does not teach 'killing is required '.
fellow servant
Please note that the above is just another (almost) Fundamentalist's point of view.
LK 22:49 When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
LK 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
REV 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear:
REV 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Why would anyone carry a sword, and ask Jesus if they should use it, if it were inappropriate?
GAL 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
MT 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
As opposed to the bad man that does nothing?
AMOS 6:3 Ye that put far away the evil day, and cause the seat of violence to come near;
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Please do not add to God's word. You can presume why swords were carried, but NO WHERE in the NEW COVENANT are we commanded to kill!!!!Please note that the above is just another (almost) Fundamentalist's point of view.
LK 22:49 When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
LK 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
REV 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear:
REV 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
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