What does the NY Times get right?Originally Posted by Fenris
Coffee Break
What does the NY Times get right?
Deadpan Snarker
It's the NY Times. Not much
I kid, I kid.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Soli Deo Gloria
I think the point of the article was to show that the Messiah ben Joesph motif was around before Jesus. Thats what i got anyway
this is a Hebrew scholar's take on the same article.
http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.c...christian.html
Good bye.
One could ask why you hate Fenris. But that would be ridiculous, right?
Absolutely nothing Fenris said had anything to do with 'hating' anyone, let alone Jesus. Stop following him from thread to thread just to spit venom at him. Your representation of Jesus is awful.
Good bye.
I'm not sure why this is just now hitting that blog today, when the stone has been controversial (and in the news) for a couple of years now. The blog doesn't add anything new to the debate.Well, I think the title of the thread tells the whole story.But here's the link, funny how it took 15 years for this to come out.
http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.co...-on-third-day/
This is from Joel Rosenburg's blog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel's_Revelation
If we want a real debate on the Dead Sea Scrolls, we'd get into the combination of 4Q521 and 4Q285.
Captain Obvious
Total side note: I'm assuming your new sig is a Hebrew proverb of some sort?It's the NY Times. Not much
I kid, I kid.
I can't quite get the translation right. Is it about the people of Israel or the nation of Israel?
The Rookie
Twelve is the number of government. Thus, it is quite apropos that I am on my way towards wielding the power of twelve bars - each bar like, say, a tribe.....or a star.....or, maybe an apostle. A blue apostle. Like apostle smurfs. Does anyone remember smurfs? And all the controversy about them being from the devil? It's probably bad that I juxtaposed "apostle" and "smurf" in the same sentence. But then, I probably lost you at "blue apostle". Yes, my friends, this is what "rare jewel of a person" is actually implying. "Rare Jewel of a Person" really means, "Potentially Insane".
Deadpan Snarker
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu gave a speech on Yom HaShoah, the Holocaust memorial day. He ended it with those two phrases-
עַם יִשְרָאֵל חַי
"The people of Israel live"
and
נֵצַח יִשְׂרָאֵל לֹא יְשַׁקֵּר
"The Eternal of Israel does not lie". (1 Samuel 15:29)
He sometimes ends speeches with lines from the bible, and I enjoy that very much.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Captain Obvious
Ah ha!
The people of Israel - nice!
Thanks much
The Rookie
Twelve is the number of government. Thus, it is quite apropos that I am on my way towards wielding the power of twelve bars - each bar like, say, a tribe.....or a star.....or, maybe an apostle. A blue apostle. Like apostle smurfs. Does anyone remember smurfs? And all the controversy about them being from the devil? It's probably bad that I juxtaposed "apostle" and "smurf" in the same sentence. But then, I probably lost you at "blue apostle". Yes, my friends, this is what "rare jewel of a person" is actually implying. "Rare Jewel of a Person" really means, "Potentially Insane".
IF only we had such a leader for a time such as this.....
Unhappy is he who mistakes the branch for the tree, the shadow for the substance.
Deadpan Snarker
Since this thread is about the messiah...
Benjamin Netanyahu is a descendant of king David.
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him... (Isaiah 11:10)
Just saying
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Soli Deo Gloria
Yeah but the article was about Messiah Ben Joesph, will Netanyahu be wounded for our transgressions, cut off and raised again ?Since this thread is about the messiah...
Benjamin Netanyahu is a descendant of king David.
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him... (Isaiah 11:10)
Just saying
still a great man though !
Deadpan Snarker
Netanyahu isn't descended from Joseph, but from David.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Soli Deo Gloria
The article was about a suffering messiah, this was known as Messiah ben Joesph whether or not he had to be a direct descendent of Joesph i'm not so sure, i think the motif was more concerned about the rejection of Joesph and the eventual restoration. But anyways it old stuff..still interesting though.
Deadpan Snarker
The " Messiah ben Joesph" isn't a "suffering messiah". According to legend, he's a Jewish leader killed in battle.
If he's not, why call him "Messiah ben Joesph"?whether or not he had to be a direct descendent of Joesph i'm not so sure
The "Messiah ben Joesph" isn't rejected in the legends.i think the motif was more concerned about the rejection of Joesph and the eventual restoration
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Afr.Forum Mod
I thought Netanyahu is a Messianic singer/artist ... but then there is no real difference...is thereSince this thread is about the messiah...
Benjamin Netanyahu is a descendant of king David.
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him... (Isaiah 11:10)
Just saying
Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"
Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"
Isa. 30:32
And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them
G_d was gracious He has shown favor
What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!
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