Hearing voices of the demonic

[Cindy]

Have been hearing, seeing things that are demonic in nature for several years. Have had many pray, but this continues. Tried medications, zero effect. These voices say that this is an ancestral chain letter, and will soon afflict one of my children. They are blasphemous against God and Jesus, they physically afflict me. They keep me up most nights claiming devil-worshippers are involved. I see the both transparent appirations and physical beings, some appear to look normal, but many look evil. They know the future. They are both truthful and liars. Although I cannot stand to live with this condition, my hope is that you will pray for my children and grandchildren that this is not passed on to them as these voices claim. These voices claim that they are "phsycological operational specialists,"
and that this is a Murder/Suicide as well as a chain letter. I trust in Jesus Christ regardless, but know this to be an overwhelmingly evil situation, I can literally feel the evil from it, it is overpowering. In researching blogs from many schitzophrenics online, I see they are experiencing much of the same. I truly know that this is demonic. I know what scripture says, I just try to hold on.

[awestruckchild]

Have been hearing, seeing things that are demonic in nature for several years. Have had many pray, but this continues. Tried medications, zero effect. These voices say that this is an ancestral chain letter, and will soon afflict one of my children. They are blasphemous against God and Jesus, they physically afflict me. They keep me up most nights claiming devil-worshippers are involved. I see the both transparent appirations and physical beings, some appear to look normal, but many look evil. They know the future. They are both truthful and liars. Although I cannot stand to live with this condition, my hope is that you will pray for my children and grandchildren that this is not passed on to them as these voices claim. These voices claim that they are "phsycological operational specialists,"
and that this is a Murder/Suicide as well as a chain letter. I trust in Jesus Christ regardless, but know this to be an overwhelmingly evil situation, I can literally feel the evil from it, it is overpowering. In researching blogs from many schitzophrenics online, I see they are experiencing much of the same. I truly know that this is demonic. I know what scripture says, I just try to hold on.

This sounds awful Cindy.
How old are you?
Are you currently on any medications?
Of course I will pray for your children and grandchildren. I am honored to do so.
My name is Jennie, Cindy.

[Dani H]

I see and hear these things also but I don't live in fear of them because I do trust God. Faith is the opposite of fear. No chain letter has greater power than God. No ancestral ANYTHING has greater power than God! It doesn't matter what people did 200 years ago that I never even met! The only thing that has power over MY life are the things I do and the things I believe and the decisions I make! It's my life!

I think you're believing something that is a flat-out lie, and you're giving it power (inside yourself) that it doesn't have (in reality).

Question: If you believe you have some form of schizophrenia going on, are you under the care of a doctor for this?

[Toner44]

I see and hear these things also but I don't live in fear of them because I do trust God. Faith is the opposite of fear. No chain letter has greater power than God. No ancestral ANYTHING has greater power than God! It doesn't matter what people did 200 years ago that I never even met! The only thing that has power over MY life are the things I do and the things I believe and the decisions I make! It's my life!

I think you're believing something that is a flat-out lie, and you're giving it power (inside yourself) that it doesn't have (in reality).

Question: If you believe you have some form of schizophrenia going on, are you under the care of a doctor for this?

Sometimes things happen that make it impossible to believe its schizophrenia. One day they were threatening to give me a "heart attack" and I laughed it off until my heart started beating out of my chest. Something was manipulating my heart and it was beating with irregular rhythms. I was in a resting state and I wasn't stressed. It happened on numerous occasions and the critters even tried to get me to pray to Lucifer afterwards. I was trained as an EMT and I'm pretty sure schizophrenia can't do that. One time I happened to be close to someone who could take my pulse and blood pressure. Now, I personally believe the devil needed special permission from God's throne to do that.

But that and some other occurrences make it impossible to listen to a professional and hear him or her tell me its all in my head. I'm sure there's cases where that's true but in my case I firmly believe I'm being mixed in. That's not to say that I discontinued treatment...I need all the help I can get. But sometimes that occasional intrusion of the medical community just makes it one more battle to fight. I understand that they're firm with their beliefs because they know people hurt themselves and others and they do serve a purpose because its always better to be safe than lose a life. Sometimes medication does help.


Lets not forget that this stuff was in the bible and many of Jesus' miracles were with the oppressed. I can understand why a person might fear this because a human alone has no way of defeating satan. It takes reliance on God and claiming Jesus' victory because I believe thats why this is happening...to draw us closer to him. When we turn our fear of Satan into disgust for Satan and sinning and honor and fear God we receive the full blessing of God's love and power.

Cindy...just curious...have you tried fasting yet?

[Dani H]

I was trained as an EMT and I'm pretty sure schizophrenia can't do that.

No but anxiety and stress can do all kinds of numbers on a person, and the enemy loves to just feed into that. It's not the voices, it's the reaction to them. If you're grounded in the Lord and a person of peace, then the enemy can yak all he wants all day long and you will just continue to focus on God.

How often did Jesus have to say "don't be afraid"? How many times does He have to say it, until we choose to obey and to not be afraid even though our feelings tell us to fear and be anxious? Who are we listening to? Who reigns supreme within us? God's words? Or the enemie's lies?

Choose who you're going to serve. Choose who you're going to trust. Choose who is trustworthy enough to be listened to, and submitted to, believed, and obeyed. You are either going to believe what the Bible says and what God says, or you're going to continue to spin your wheels and be made crazy by every lie the enemy throws at you.

God gives you His peace. You can choose to give it away, or not. Nobody can take it away. You give it, or you keep it. I prefer to keep mine.

John 14:1
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God ; believe also in me."

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

[Toner44]

No but anxiety and stress can do all kinds of numbers on a person, and the enemy loves to just feed into that. It's not the voices, it's the reaction to them. If you're grounded in the Lord and a person of peace, then the enemy can yak all he wants all day long and you will just continue to focus on God.

How often did Jesus have to say "don't be afraid"? How many times does He have to say it, until we choose to obey and to not be afraid even though our feelings tell us to fear and be anxious? Who are we listening to? Who reigns supreme within us? God's words? Or the enemie's lies?

Choose who you're going to serve. Choose who you're going to trust. Choose who is trustworthy enough to be listened to, and submitted to, believed, and obeyed. You are either going to believe what the Bible says and what God says, or you're going to continue to spin your wheels and be made crazy by every lie the enemy throws at you.

God gives you His peace. You can choose to give it away, or not. Nobody can take it away. You give it, or you keep it. I prefer to keep mine.

John 14:1
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God ; believe also in me."

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

Too many times I would think I had the power to defeat evil alone and it was simply a matter of fighting back but it is really God that sustains us and gives us strength. I was talking about pride.

I actually think our points go hand and hand. I agree stress isn't helpful.

[Toner44]

They tried that devil worshiper stuff with me too. Trust that God will always protect you. Its hard to trust but He loves you that much.

Devil worshipers are disillusioned sinners. Don't let them get you to think they have any power. Satan would just assume destroy them too but they should really fear God.

As for satan...this is how I view him: he's better off repenting because each day his punishment gets a little worse for his sins. He knows that but he thinks he can sneak a little glory away from God before his time comes. Jesus was victorious over him at the cross because we can be redeemed.

[Warrior4God]

As for satan...this is how I view him: he's better off repenting because each day his punishment gets a little worse for his sins.

There's nothing in scripture that indicates God made a provision for salvation for Satan and his demons. I believe the likely reason, though scripture doesn't explicitly indicate so, is that they have no desire to repent. They are completely hardened, by their own choice, against God and rebel against Him, knowing full well they will suffer in hell forever because of it.

[Toner44]

There's nothing in scripture that indicates God made a provision for salvation for Satan and his demons. I believe the likely reason, though scripture doesn't explicitly indicate so, is that they have no desire to repent. They are completely hardened, by their own choice, against God and rebel against Him, knowing full well they will suffer in hell forever because of it.

Doesn't the bible consider it a sin to turn someone astray? I don't believe the bible states he has received his final judgment yet. He won't have a chance to live in Heaven but God could reduce his punishment. But I'm sidetracking because we all know the future that is in-store for him.

[Warrior4God]

Doesn't the bible consider it a sin to turn someone astray? I don't believe the bible states he has received his final judgment yet. He won't have a chance to live in Heaven but God could reduce his punishment. But I'm sidetracking because we all know the future that is in-store for him.

Satan and his demons are not in hell yet, this is true. That's future. They are allowed, for the time being, to roam the earth and they cause what evil they can, but they are destined for hell and they know it. The demons, in at least one scripture, had asked Jesus if He had come to torment them before "the appointed time." They know where they are going. The Bible also says the lake of fire is prepared for Satan and his angels. There is no getting out of that punishment for them. There has been no provision for salvation for fallen angels. I don't know that there is a possibility to have "lesser punishment" in hell. Hell doesn't seem like a good place, period. Even if there is lesser punishment in hell, Satan and his demons seem to have no desire to repent for the evil they've done. As for the poster that started this thread, all I can say is to continue to seek God for relief from this demonic affliction. Perhaps God is allowing it to occur for a reason. It's a testing of faith, endurance, and reliance on God for the poster, perhaps. Also, the poster needs to realize that the Devil is a liar and most, if not all, of what he says is a lie. Just tune him out and rely on God. The Devil is a bully and wants to cause fear, worry, and doubt. Satan is at war with God and man. Don't let him have a victory.

[Toner44]

Perhaps I've been a little rough with you Cindy and for that I apologize. These are just some of the things I've come to realize going through my own battle. I'm not saying I have the truth but when I realized these things it helped me cope with a lot of it.

God loves you and he shows it. He's very much in control of everything. He's not helpless and this isn't foreign to Him. Everyone has their own roads and my road has been rough by my own description but when I look back and picture God planning every moment I smile because I realize who I was before and how much he loved me. This was a divine intervention for me even though it sadly came in the form of satan. Satan might do things to you but God is very much in control of every second. He won't give you anything you can't handle. Satan has his own intentions but he's powerless to fulfill half of what he wants to. He's forced to work by God's agenda and because of that this might actually benefit you.

God loves on a massive scale. I compare my situation to a morphine addict. You can give a morphine addict another hit of morphine to subside his withdrawal or you can help him get through his withdrawal so he or she won't have to suffer anymore. Thats God's love to me in this instance. Sometimes he answers our prayers and gives us that new house that we want but sometimes he takes a more meaningful route. The end result can't be bought for nothing. Its priceless to feel that loved by the God who created the earth with his hands.

God bless

- Toner

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[Toner44]

I heard a pastor compare God and evil to two gears. Where one gear turns the other. You hear about someone getting murdered but what you don't hear is the family came to God and one of them was saved in the turmoil and renewed. You hear about someone getting raped but what you don't hear is the rapist came to God and spent the rest of his life in ministry. You hear about a tragic story but what you don't hear is how it affected the person who read the news article. Satan obviously doesn't intend for it to be this way but its because everything works by God's agenda. The ultimate goal is to save whats most valuable which is eternal life.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you shouldn't be trying to do everything you can to get this off of you. Because God loves you you deserve freedom. These people have been giving you some good advice to "resist the devil and he will flee from you." Do everything you can to resist the devil's temptations and just leave it all in God's hands.

[Toner44]

I think you know this but don't do anything they say to prevent a supposed threat against your children or family. That probably pulls at your heart strings but they wouldn't have said it if it wasn't a lie. I don't have children but they used my own life and my close family to give me stress so I would make poor mistakes. God is in control.

[Toner44]

One of the biggest problems I face is my willingness to follow Christ changes throughout the day. This is really like living in a state of chaos because so much stuff gets thrown at you throughout the day. Mental illness or not, I can't help but always be stuck thinking about God from the moment I wake up to when I fall asleep because theres that actual voice in my head constantly reminding me of religion.

Sometimes I acknowledge my feelings but other times God graces me with the ability to know what I know and ignore my feelings. One of the ways I've combated this is I listen to Christian music almost every second of my free time. Even when I don't feel like it I'm listening because its that constant positive talk about God and us that keeps my mind level.

[Toner44]

There's nothing in scripture that indicates God made a provision for salvation for Satan and his demons. I believe the likely reason, though scripture doesn't explicitly indicate so, is that they have no desire to repent. They are completely hardened, by their own choice, against God and rebel against Him, knowing full well they will suffer in hell forever because of it.

We all want a utopia but we know in the end its not going to happen. Not until Jesus returns and removes the curse and reins with perfect judgement and love. But now I'm really sidetracking.