Without animal sacrifices there is no biblical Judaism. Have the Jews entered into a new covenant with God? Pray tell!!Originally Posted by Fenris
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Without animal sacrifices there is no biblical Judaism. Have the Jews entered into a new covenant with God? Pray tell!!
Formerly "Adullam" from other sites!
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Posting Freak
Apparently it wasn't made obsolete, read Ezek 40-48. There will be a temple in the Millenium.
Deadpan Snarker
Or (d) the prophets, the Sages, and the Jewish thinkers of the Middle Ages realized that sacrifices were symbolic enactments of processes of mind, heart and deed that could be expressed in other ways as well.It said the Jews no longer sacrifice animals, and that means one of several things. (a) Either they no longer care to make atonement for their sins, or (b) they have abandoned their God, or (c) they no longer have a Temple and priesthood which is required to make animal sacrifices.
That's in the original article.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Deadpan Snarker
Please read the original article. Thanks.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Deadpan Snarker
Oh, don't start this. Rejoice thinks the temple in Ezekiel was the second temple.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Posting Freak
Sorry, I didn't mean to open that can of worms, I forgot.
Coffee Break
Do you know who the sons of Sadok are? Do you know that according to the Talmud the altar and porch were identical in Ezekiel's passage and in the second temple?
Coffee Break
I read that article three times now, and I did not see any reference to Christians. What the article did say was that the Jewish thinkers have decided to abandon the law.
I have to go for several hours.
Wrong. God keeps his promises unilaterally. You salvation depends on it.
Unhappy is he who mistakes the branch for the tree, the shadow for the substance.
Deadpan Snarker
It doesn't. I made the reference.
They didn't see it that way.What the article did say was that the Jewish thinkers have decided to abandon the law.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?I have to go for several hours.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
נתהלך באור
Without the temple and sacrifices there are no measures to holiness in God's real presence. Sure you can do good works....but these do not replace the first great commandment Loving God with all we are. Rather these acts of tsedaka are just that...righteousness stemming from obedience to the second great commandment..loving others as yourself.
So the holiness and Shekinah presence seem to be abandoned in order to allow the religion to continue. God Himself seems to have been sacrificed for this.
The truth is that holiness is now found in the person of Christ and the new creation IN holiness so that we are now the temple of God and the shekinah is within us and among us. Judaism has now focused on a righteousness that men can accomplish WITHOUT God's presence.
Formerly "Adullam" from other sites!
Striving to apprehend that for which I have been apprehended in Christ Jesus.
Walk in the Light! (התהלכו באור)
If you said that to the prophet Daniel, and he'd probably smile, get on his knees, face toward Jerusalem and pray. And you'd be as mystified as any Babylonian in the day.
Unhappy is he who mistakes the branch for the tree, the shadow for the substance.
I live here!
Fenris, here's some questions that come to mind, keeping in mind that I may be misunderstanding the OP all together and have entirely missed the point. It wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
What would all this mean in the long run, as in regards to the Jewish expectation of another temple? Would this mean that plans for another temple, that this would no longer be an expectation? Or would it mean if the temple is still expected to be built someday, and if and when it does get built, would it mean animal sacrificing would not be a part of the ceremonies?
EDIT: I meant to reply to the OP, not to Keck. Sorry about that.
Deadpan Snarker
Jeremiah 9:24 ..."let him who boasts boast about this: that he understands and knows me, that I am the LORD, who exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight," declares the LORD.
Perhaps God is present whenever a person does kindness, justice, or righteousness? Whoa.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Deadpan Snarker
Good question.
Well, as per Jewish understanding of Ezekiel 40-48, among other portions of the prophets, the rebuilt temple will in fact feature sacrifice. Mind you, as per Leviticus most sacrifices are for unintentional sin.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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