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    Jesus Told Us How We Could Know When He Returns

    Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

    Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.

    The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 "before the throne") commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B'Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.

    Furthermore, we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-22 or 2016-23.

    To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won't happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won't happen again till 2172.

    If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.

    Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.

    Now that you know this what do you do? "Overcometh" so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don't care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).

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    Every date-setter that has ever lived has been wrong, Harold Camping being the most recent. Why should we believe you?
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    When...not if the Psalm 83 war is here (which is not far away).....I believe we very close to the rapture and the 7 year Tribulation. There are some truth in the statement and none of end time prophecy could come into fullfilment before the birth of Israel on 14 May 1948. Israel is 64 years old this year and Matthew states that the generation that witness this will also witness the 2nd coming. We are that generation. A genearation is about 70 years long......which puts us very close. See this link for a more detailed explanation.



    Which generation of people will be living when the King of kings and Lord of lords makes his trek back to Planet Earth at the end of this age? Will the European, Asian, and Mideast leaders we see on television and read about in the newspaper every day be involved in the endtime battle called “Armageddon”?

    According to Isaiah, the prophet, God knows every generation that will ever be born. “Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he” (Isa. 41:4). God also has a plan for every generation: “Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations” (Psalm 90:1).

    The prophetic Word indicates one generation that will not pass away completely; that is, not everyone in that generation will die. Some people will be taken directly from Planet Earth after an instantaneous, miraculous change into supernatural minds and bodies, for eternal residence in heaven. The Generation Mystery

    We know from the Scriptures that the first generation began with Adam and Eve. Noah was the tenth generation. Which generation of people was Christ talking about that would see his return when he said: “…This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled?” (Matt. 24:34). The answer to this 2000-year-old question may be closer than we think, if the many prophecies we see converging on the horizon continue their march towards fulfillment in the 21st century.

    The unfolding of the “end times” prophetic scenario before our eyes should prompt us to keep our Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other as we piece the prophetic puzzle together.

    Matthew 24:30-36 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory…Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    http://www.raptureready.com/rr-last-generation.html
    ".......and go into the land of Israel:" (Matthew 2:20)



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    Re: Jesus Told Us How We Could Know When He Returns

    Quote Originally Posted by songofdegrees View Post
    Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

    Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.

    360 day years are a lunar year calendar.


    Furthermore, we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-22 or 2016-23.

    May 14, 1948 is counted with a solar year calendar.


    The math being used mixes lunar and solar calendars.


    Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.


    Biblical prophecy with the moon/months are about antichrist.


    Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.


    Biblical prophecy with the sun/days are about Christ.


    Christians are to be children of the light, not children of the night.


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    Re: Jesus Told Us How We Could Know When He Returns

    Sorry for me being stupid but,

    what is H3?

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    Protective Angel, notice the quotes below and my comments...

    Quote Originally Posted by Love Fountain View Post
    360 day years are a lunar year calendar.
    It is not quite that simple, there are thirteen months in seven out of nineteen years. Further more, a month is not exactly 30 days, it is 29 days, 12 hours and 793 parts. So comparing our calendar, to the Hebrew calendar, to the Prophetic calendar is not simple at all.


    May 14, 1948 is counted with a solar year calendar.


    The math being used mixes lunar and solar calendars.


    Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.


    Biblical prophecy with the moon/months are about antichrist.


    Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.


    Biblical prophecy with the sun/days are about Christ.


    Christians are to be children of the light, not children of the night.


    Bless you,
    Love Fountain
    Predicting dates is not only impossible because of the calendar problems, it is just not possible...

    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    Notice who knows the day or the hour. No man, only the Father.
    Last edited by John 8:32; Apr 25th 2012 at 02:50 PM. Reason: fingers faster than brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcrow View Post
    Every date-setter that has ever lived has been wrong, Harold Camping being the most recent. Why should we believe you?
    Because the evidence speaks for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love Fountain View Post
    360 day years are a lunar year calendar.

    May 14, 1948 is counted with a solar year calendar.


    The math being used mixes lunar and solar calendars.
    Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to May, 1948 using a lunar year, and all days whether lunar or solar are still the same number of days just calculated differently to derive a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protective Angel View Post
    Sorry for me being stupid but,

    what is H3?
    Most people don't know about it. There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses. The rarest is the Hybrid which occurs about 5% of the time. Then there are 3 kinds of Hybrids, the rarest which is the H3 which occurs about 5% of the time of all Hybrids. The H3 is simply a solar eclipse that starts off partial and finishes being a total eclipse to produce that blacksackcloth effect. It is even more rare when it is a long eclipse according to NASA lasting more than a minute and a half.

    This long H3 is the 4th since Christ and won't happen again till 2172. It's amazing how it is right where it needs to be between the great earthquake 2010/11 and the Tetrad 2014/15.

    T06-cmp105cx.jpg

    What's even more interesting is in 2022 Jupiter will be the closest to earth it has been in several centuries. You will be able to see it very visibly from earth and apparently it is suppose to sparkle with lots of comets hitting it.

    "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matt. 24.30).

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    Quote Originally Posted by John 8:32 View Post
    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    Notice who knows the day or the hour. No man, only the Father.
    You misread this verse. Read it properly.

    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Matt. 24.35-36).

    Jesus doesn't return at the end of the earth for there would be no earth for Him to return to (no mount of olives to step on Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7). Jesus returns 1000 years before the end of the earth to reign on earth for 1000 years with His overcomers. Jesus said you can know when this occurs once Israel is a nation again. And we know now!

    The 2,520 days of the Tribulation are from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.

    There are no problems with dates or days. A day is a day no matter what calender you use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John 8:32 View Post
    Protective Angel, notice the quotes below and my comments...



    It is not quite that simple, there are thirteen months in seven out of nineteen years. Further more, a month is not exactly 30 days, it is 29 days, 12 hours and 793 parts. So comparing our calendar, to the Hebrew calendar, to the Prophetic calendar is not simple at all.




    Predicting dates is not only impossible because of the calendar problems, it is just not possible...

    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    Notice who knows the day or the hour. No man, only the Father.
    Sorry Protective Angel, I meant this for songofdegrees. I had a senior moment there.

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    John 8:32,

    You leaped over what I said. You misread this verse. Read it properly.

    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Matt. 24.35-36).

    Jesus doesn't return at the end of the earth for there would be no earth for Him to return to (no mount of olives to step on Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7). Jesus returns 1000 years before the end of the earth to reign on earth for 1000 years with His overcomers. Jesus said you can know when this occurs once Israel is a nation again. And we know now!

    The 2,520 days of the Tribulation are from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.

    There are no problems with dates or days. A day is a day no matter what calender you use. Jesus doesn't contradict Himself saying you can "know" in Matt. 24.33 then say you can't know. Satan is the author of confusion not Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofdegrees View Post
    John 8:32,

    You leaped over what I said. You misread this verse. Read it properly.

    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Matt. 24.35-36).

    Jesus doesn't return at the end of the earth for there would be no earth for Him to return to (no mount of olives to step on Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7). Jesus returns 1000 years before the end of the earth to reign on earth for 1000 years with His overcomers. Jesus said you can know when this occurs once Israel is a nation again. And we know now!

    The 2,520 days of the Tribulation are from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.

    There are no problems with dates or days. A day is a day no matter what calender you use. Jesus doesn't contradict Himself saying you can "know" in Matt. 24.33 then say you can't know. Satan is the author of confusion not Jesus.
    Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
    Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
    Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    He is speaking of the time when "ye shall see all these things, know that it is near" not the time when heaven and earth may pass away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofdegrees View Post
    Most people don't know about it. There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses. The rarest is the Hybrid which occurs about 5% of the time. Then there are 3 kinds of Hybrids, the rarest which is the H3 which occurs about 5% of the time of all Hybrids. The H3 is simply a solar eclipse that starts off partial and finishes being a total eclipse to produce that blacksackcloth effect. It is even more rare when it is a long eclipse according to NASA lasting more than a minute and a half.

    This long H3 is the 4th since Christ and won't happen again till 2172. It's amazing how it is right where it needs to be between the great earthquake 2010/11 and the Tetrad 2014/15.

    T06-cmp105cx.jpg

    What's even more interesting is in 2022 Jupiter will be the closest to earth it has been in several centuries. You will be able to see it very visibly from earth and apparently it is suppose to sparkle with lots of comets hitting it.

    "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matt. 24.30).
    Is this not some sort of astrology? Just asking.

    Astrology has no power of predictionIn the book of Daniel, the Bible makes fun of astrologers and indicates that they are powerless to really observe the future. King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon had a disturbing dream that none of his astrologers or "wise men" could interpret.2 The King had ordered all the wise men, including Daniel, a young captive from Judah, to be executed. Daniel convinced the king's bodyguard that God would reveal the mystery to him and requested time to seek the answer. Having prayed to God and received the answer in a vision, Daniel reported to the king's chambers. Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar:

    Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, show unto the king; but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you lay on your bed are these... (Daniel 2:27-28)

    Later, when King Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzar's son, saw a finger appear and write on the wall at his party, he called in the astrologers, who, likewise, failed to interpret a writing that had appeared on the wall.3 These astrologers were again shown to be powerless deceivers.

    God commanded His people, the nation of Israel, not to practice astrology by looking at "signs of the heavens." God calls such "signs" delusions:

    Thus says the Lord, "Do not learn the way of the nations, And do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens Although the nations are terrified by them; For the customs of the peoples are delusion... (Jeremiah 10:2-3)
    ".......and go into the land of Israel:" (Matthew 2:20)



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    Re: Jesus Told Us How We Could Know When He Returns

    Quote Originally Posted by John 8:32 View Post
    Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
    Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
    Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    He is speaking of the time when "ye shall see all these things, know that it is near" not the time when heaven and earth may pass away.
    I will agree here, but also add that the fig tree parable is not about Israel's reestablishment but is a comparison. When you see the fig tree leaf out we know summer is close. In this way when we see the events Jesus mentions we know His coming is soon. The fig tree in the act of leafing out represent the events not Israel.
    He's wild, you know. Not like a tame lion.
    C.S. Lewis, "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe."

    And through the storm yet I will praise you
    Despite it all yet I will sing
    Through good or bad yet I will worship
    You remain the same, King of Kings

    You are the voice of hope; the anchor of my soul
    Where there seems to be no way, you make it possible
    You are the Prince of Peace amidst adversity
    My lips will shout for joy to you the Most High.
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