Question for those who understand the Hebrew texts

[Old man]

I am studying the book of Daniel and there are a couple of verses in chapter seven that I would like some clarification on the translation.

The first is the first part of verse 9 “I kept looking Until thrones were set up, …” This is from the NASB however there are several versions including a Hebrew Interlinear that translates it as “I was looking until the thrones were cast down, …” Which of these are the correct translation if either of them?


The second is in verse 26 “But the court will sit for judgment, and his dominion will be taken away, annihilated and destroyed forever” (again NASB). Here the questionable part regards the words “the court will sit …” I don’t see it in the Hebrew interlinear. IMO, the words “the court will sit” implies multiple persons involved in the judgment and that might be appropriate depending on how verse 9 should be translated.


Any wisdom regarding these verses would be appreciated from one who is clueless about the Hebrew texts.

[aftertheflood]

The word used in v.9 is "remah". It can be translated throw(n), cast, or set. The word picture here is that something is carried in thrown or cast down, or set down. Like when you throw together a bunch of lawn chairs for a gathering at the BBQ. Regardless of what translitration you use, they all mean putting a chair down on the floor. In v.26 the word used in "dinah" which means judgement or court. Where does a judgement come from? - a court. What does a court do? - render judgement. As for the idea of "multiple" people keep in mind what a kings court is. It is all of his advisors and hangers on, but they do not render the judgement, only the king does.

[Ta-An]

The word used in v.9 is "remah". It can be translated throw(n), cast, or set. The word picture here is that something is carried in thrown or cast down, or set down. Like when you throw together a bunch of lawn chairs for a gathering at the BBQ. Regardless of what translitration you use, they all mean putting a chair down on the floor.

I agree.... it means to get ready, or prepare
Thus, it is not time yet for the Judgement Hall to be ready, but when the times comes, this will be prepared..... who know what has to make place for it...

In v.26 the word used in "dinah" which means judgement or court. Where does a judgement come from? - a court. What does a court do? - render judgement. As for the idea of "multiple" people keep in mind what a kings court is. It is all of his advisors and hangers on, but they do not render the judgement, only the king does.

.... compare this to Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw.....................

[Old man]

The word "remah" is used twelve times in the OT (at least that’s all I could find: Ezr. 7:24, Dan. 3:6, Dan. 3:11, Dan. 3:15, Dan. 3:20, Dan. 3:21, Dan. 3:24, Dan. 6:7, Dan. 6:12, Dan. 6:16, Dan. 6:24 and Dan. 7:9) and in all cases the word is applied in a negative way as in humbling, putting down and destroying the object to which this word is directed toward. That is except here in Dan 7:9.

Dan 7:9 "I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire.
Dan 7:10 "A river of fire was flowing And coming out from before Him; Thousands upon thousands were attending Him, And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him; The court sat, And the books were opened.
Dan 7:11 "Then I kept looking because of the sound of the boastful words which the horn was speaking; I kept looking until the beast was slain, and its body was destroyed and given to the burning fire.
Dan 7:12 "As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was taken away, but an extension of life was granted to them for an appointed period of time.
Dan 7:13 "I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him.
Dan 7:14 "And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.

It seems to me that the word can be applied in a negative way here in verse 9 just as in the other verses mentioned if the thrones mentioned as being set up / cast down, were the thrones or symbols of the four beasts authority and rulership which is the purpose of this whole judgment, The context of the judgment is the Ancient of Days putting and end to the ruling of the four beasts, and not just the loud mouthed beast the other beasts are included in this judgment as well, and establishing the rule and kingdom of the one like the Son of Man. He is essentially casting down their authority or thrones to set up the everlasting kingdom.

The idea of the thrones being for those in the court is based on (from what I understand) the idea that there is a court in verse 26. But I don’t see “court” in the Hebrew. I see verse 26 meaning that judgment has been set with no reference to an actual court.

So my question is whether the Hebrew can actually support this view or am I just going down a rabbit trail? I am not the brightest bulb in the pack when it comes to Hebrew so I am hoping I can get some clarification from those who are.

[Raybob]

...The second is in verse 26 “But the court will sit for judgment, and his dominion will be taken away, annihilated and destroyed forever” (again NASB). Here the questionable part regards the words “the court will sit …” I don’t see it in the Hebrew interlinear. IMO, the words “the court will sit” implies multiple persons involved in the judgment and that might be appropriate depending on how verse 9 should be translated.
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"The court will sit". That is questionable. The KJV has "But the judgment shall sit.." The original Hebrew had two words for those 5 English words. First is "deen" meaning judgment, for "But the judgment." Second is "yethib" meaning "dwell or sit". That is what is translated in KJV to "shall sit".

[granpa]

http://interlinearbible.org/daniel/7.htm