God has fixed a day

[jeffweeder]

Acts 17
　
30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."
　
Since the ressurection of our Lord Jesus, God has been declaring to all people everywhere that they are to repent, because a day of judgment is coming. He has fixed a day for the redeemed as well as those who reject the Gospel.
The spoken word to the world in this age, is to repent before the fixed day, and God waits patiently not wanting any to perish.
Only the Father knows the day or hour.
　
Elsewhere, regarding the righteous judgment,
　
When he comes he will render to every man, (rev 22)
he will raise and change and rapture the sheep the last day, (Jn 6 , 1thess 4),
and his already spoken word will judge all the last day. (Jn 12).
God the Father has fixed a day when he will send Jesus to seperate his flock from the goats.(Matt 25)
Rom 2- shows clearly a fixed day that includes both the righteous and unrepentant.

But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation.
　
2Tim 4
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; 8 in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing.
　
Paul includes himself in the day God has fixed, when the righteous judge returns to resurrect and award him his reward.


To summarise the fixed day -;
The Son coming to judge the world in righteousness,
= either,
Glorification, (rewards)
or
Damnation,
on the last (fixed) day.
　
2Thess 1 sums it up.
　
This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.
　
The testimony that is believed is the spoken word to repent...before the fixed day.
All who have ever believed will be glorified on this day of righteous judgment and the opening of the book of life.
　
Has God fixed a couple of days where he will judge the world in righteousness by sending his Son?

[billy-brown 2]

Has God fixed a couple of days where he will judge the world in righteousness by sending his Son?

Nope.

Just one day:

I Pet. 3
7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

[John 8:32]

Nope.

I Pet. 3
7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Just one day:

Umm, that would be 2 Pet 3:7 and notice what day that is...

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Which is...

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The final judgment after the GWTJ.

[The Beginner]

Acts 17
　
30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."
　
Since the ressurection of our Lord Jesus, God has been declaring to all people everywhere that they are to repent, because a day of judgment is coming. He has fixed a day for the redeemed as well as those who reject the Gospel.
The spoken word to the world in this age, is to repent before the fixed day, and God waits patiently not wanting any to perish.
Only the Father knows the day or hour.
　
Elsewhere, regarding the righteous judgment,
　
When he comes he will render to every man, (rev 22)
he will raise and change and rapture the sheep the last day, (Jn 6 , 1thess 4),
and his already spoken word will judge all the last day. (Jn 12).
God the Father has fixed a day when he will send Jesus to seperate his flock from the goats.(Matt 25)
Rom 2- shows clearly a fixed day that includes both the righteous and unrepentant.

But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation.
　
2Tim 4
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; 8 in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing.
　
Paul includes himself in the day God has fixed, when the righteous judge returns to resurrect and award him his reward.


To summarise the fixed day -;
The Son coming to judge the world in righteousness,
= either,
Glorification, (rewards)
or
Damnation,
on the last (fixed) day.
　
2Thess 1 sums it up.
　
This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.
　
The testimony that is believed is the spoken word to repent...before the fixed day.
All who have ever believed will be glorified on this day of righteous judgment and the opening of the book of life.
　
Has God fixed a couple of days where he will judge the world in righteousness by sending his Son?

What is your biblical understanding of the Day of the Lord?... Was it seen as only a single 24 hour period or did it speak of a time period when God would bring redemption for the remnant, and destruction for the wicked? If the former is the point of the scriptures then I think you have a valid point, but if the latter then the bible's references to the eschatological day of the Lord are then directed to a future time period of restoration and retribution.

For the "Day" to be only a 24 our period, then I think there would need to be a consistent hermeneutic through scripture that separates the understanding of the "last day" from "In that Day/Day of the Lord" for your point to be proven valid..
I don't think we have adequate passages in the New Testament on the "Last Day" or "Appointed day" to reinterpret the Old Testament understanding of the Day of the Lord.

IMO, if the day of the Lord is only seen as a single last 24 hour day on the earth, then it would only take only one scripture that disproves this for it to be a false conclusion and demand that we go back to the drawing board on what our conclusions need to be.

Isa 34:8 NKJV - [8] For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, The year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

For those that hold to historical application of Isa 34 and the fall of Edom, was Edom's "Day of the Lord" a 24 hour judgment? No, it happened over a time period...

Isa 24:21-22 NKJV - [21] It shall come to pass in that day That the LORD will punish on high the host of exalted ones, And on the earth the kings of the earth. [22] They will be gathered together, As prisoners are gathered in the pit, And will be shut up in the prison; After many days they will be punished.

Isaiah 24 speaks of the "Day of the Lord" in which the Lord will punish the demonic ranks (the host of exalted ones) and the wicked leaders of the earth. On the "Day of the Lord" they will be gathered like prisoner into a pit and shut up in a prison. Notice the next phrase, "after many days they will be punished". Thus there is a subsequent punishment that takes place "after many days" from when they are gathered. If the day of the Lord is a single day here then there is a problem because they are not to be punished until many days after the day of the Lord.... The answer is that Isaiah is speaking of the whole time period.

Rev 6:17 NKJV - [17] "For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"

The sixth seal is called the day of the Lord... Is this a one day event with no more days after it? No, for example there are trumpets and bowls afterwards. One of the trumpets has a 5 months duration to it.

Eze 13:5 NKJV - [5] "You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the LORD.

Ezekiel rebukes the prophets for not preparing the people in light of the Babylonian invasion which he called the "Day of the Lord" was the Babylonian invasion a one day event? No

Joe 2:1, 11 NKJV - [1] Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand: ... [11] The LORD gives voice before His army, For His camp is very great; For strong is the One who executes His word. For the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; Who can endure it?

I can't think of any eschatological opinion that sees Joel 2's "Day of the Lord" as a 24 hour period. The context does not allow for it, wether you believe it was speaking of historical Babylon or a future army...

Zec 14:1-2 NKJV - [1] Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, And your spoil will be divided in your midst. [2] For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Again, Not a one day event...

But let me clear, I am not saying there is not a "final 24 hour period" of the age, nor am I saying there is not a certain day for the GWT (wether it happens n 24 hours, I don't know). I am only saying that the biblical understanding of the "In that Day" and the "Day of the Lord" and "Last Day" was a time period equivalent to "in the future when God brings restoration and retribution" and thus could include multiple events within that time period...

[John 8:32]

What is your biblical understanding of the Day of the Lord?... Was it seen as only a single 24 hour period or did it speak of a time period when God would bring redemption for the remnant, and destruction for the wicked? If the former is the point of the scriptures then I think you have a valid point, but if the latter then the bible's references to the eschatological day of the Lord are then directed to a future time period of restoration and retribution.

For the "Day" to be only a 24 our period, then I think there would need to be a consistent hermeneutic through scripture that separates the understanding of the "last day" from "In that Day/Day of the Lord" for your point to be proven valid..
I don't think we have adequate passages in the New Testament on the "Last Day" or "Appointed day" to reinterpret the Old Testament understanding of the Day of the Lord.

IMO, if the day of the Lord is only seen as a single last 24 hour day on the earth, then it would only take only one scripture that disproves this for it to be a false conclusion and demand that we go back to the drawing board on what our conclusions need to be.

Isa 34:8 NKJV - [8] For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, The year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

For those that hold to historical application of Isa 34 and the fall of Edom, was Edom's "Day of the Lord" a 24 hour judgment? No, it happened over a time period...

Isa 24:21-22 NKJV - [21] It shall come to pass in that day That the LORD will punish on high the host of exalted ones, And on the earth the kings of the earth. [22] They will be gathered together, As prisoners are gathered in the pit, And will be shut up in the prison; After many days they will be punished.

Isaiah 24 speaks of the "Day of the Lord" in which the Lord will punish the demonic ranks (the host of exalted ones) and the wicked leaders of the earth. On the "Day of the Lord" they will be gathered like prisoner into a pit and shut up in a prison. Notice the next phrase, "after many days they will be punished". Thus there is a subsequent punishment that takes place "after many days" from when they are gathered. If the day of the Lord is a single day here then there is a problem because they are not to be punished until many days after the day of the Lord.... The answer is that Isaiah is speaking of the whole time period.

Rev 6:17 NKJV - [17] "For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"

The sixth seal is called the day of the Lord... Is this a one day event with no more days after it? No, for example there are trumpets and bowls afterwards. One of the trumpets has a 5 months duration to it.

Eze 13:5 NKJV - [5] "You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the LORD.

Ezekiel rebukes the prophets for not preparing the people in light of the Babylonian invasion which he called the "Day of the Lord" was the Babylonian invasion a one day event? No

Joe 2:1, 11 NKJV - [1] Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand: ... [11] The LORD gives voice before His army, For His camp is very great; For strong is the One who executes His word. For the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; Who can endure it?

I can't think of any eschatological opinion that sees Joel 2's "Day of the Lord" as a 24 hour period. The context does not allow for it, wether you believe it was speaking of historical Babylon or a future army...

Zec 14:1-2 NKJV - [1] Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, And your spoil will be divided in your midst. [2] For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Again, Not a one day event...

But let me clear, I am not saying there is not a "final 24 hour period" of the age, nor am I saying there is not a certain day for the GWT (wether it happens n 24 hours, I don't know). I am only saying that the biblical understanding of the "In that Day" and the "Day of the Lord" and "Last Day" was a time period equivalent to "in the future when God brings restoration and retribution" and thus could include multiple events within that time period...

2-1/2 years tribulation, 1 year Day of the Lord

[billy-brown 2]

Umm, that would be 2 Pet 3:7 and notice what day that is...

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Which is...

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The final judgment after the GWTJ.

But that is congruent with this, yes?

Matt. 13
47“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind;
48and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away.
49“So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
50and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Indeed, the "good fish" and the "bad fish" are gathered at the same time--at the end (of the age) . . . that's one fixed day . . .

[MyCoolUsername]

I have to honestly say I have never put that much thought in to this topic. I always believed that one day the Lord would come, and you better make sure your heart is right. That is how I have always looked at it.

It doesn't matter what hardships you have in life, because your reward is in Heaven. I sometimes think I am the only one who believes this way.

Short and simple.

[billy-brown 2]

I have to honestly say I have never put that much thought in to this topic. I always believed that one day the Lord would come, and you better make sure your heart is right. That is how I have always looked at it.

It doesn't matter what hardships you have in life, because your reward is in Heaven. I sometimes think I am the only one who believes this way.

Short and simple.

Yep.

Jesus made it simple.

There are only "two kinds of fish in the sea"--good fish (righteous) and bad fish (wicked).

And a day has been set (i.e, the time is coming)--for wrath, judgment, reward, and destruction per this passage:

Rev. 11
18“And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

[jeffweeder]

For the "Day" to be only a 24 our period, then I think there would need to be a consistent hermeneutic through scripture that separates the understanding of the "last day" from "In that Day/Day of the Lord" for your point to be proven valid..
I don't think we have adequate passages in the New Testament on the "Last Day" or "Appointed day" to reinterpret the Old Testament understanding of the Day of the Lord.

Greetings.
It seems very probable to me that the NT authors were well aware of what the prophets had spoken, yet they wrote what they wrote.

Jesus had opened their minds to understand the Scriptures in luke 24.

I dont suppose to come to a different eschatogical scenario through my own study of the Prophets, that would overide Apostolic teaching.

I dont believe a fixed day refers to an age, but a day and an hour, a ressurection to immortality in a twinkling of an eye........an hour is coming when all who are in the tomb will hear his voice and rise to a reward of either Eternal life or eternal seperation from the presence of God.

[jeffweeder]

Yep.

Jesus made it simple.

There are only "two kinds of fish in the sea"--good fish (righteous) and bad fish (wicked).

And a day has been set (i.e, the time is coming)--for wrath, judgment, reward, and destruction per this passage:

Rev. 11
18“And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Agreed Billy , That scripture should have been included in the OP.

[John 8:32]

But that is congruent with this, yes?



Indeed, the "good fish" and the "bad fish" are gathered at the same time--at the end (of the age) . . . that's one fixed day . . .

If, indeed, all truth on a particular subject is found in one verse then it would be true, but...

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

One must add up all the scriputres to get to the complete truth on a subject. There are many scriptures and putting them together brings one to the realization there are three resurrections and not all are judged at the same time.

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

The time is come, judgment is on us now. It first begins with us.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Here is a class of people that receive eternal life and live and reign with Christ 1000 yrs...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Says nothing about the lost or those who have never had a chance, just the ones that are Christ's. When? At His coming.

Then comes another class...

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

There is a time span of 1000 yrs here. Then comes another judgment...

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

[John 8:32]

Yep.

Jesus made it simple.

There are only "two kinds of fish in the sea"--good fish (righteous) and bad fish (wicked).

And a day has been set (i.e, the time is coming)--for wrath, judgment, reward, and destruction per this passage:

Rev. 11
18“And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Your good fish and bad fish theory has a serious flaw...

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Sure leaves out a lot of folks who had the misfortune to be born BC.

Not so simple anymore is it?

[billy-brown 2]

Your good fish and bad fish theory has a serious flaw...

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Sure leaves out a lot of folks who had the misfortune to be born BC.

Not so simple anymore is it?

But John,

Jesus' sacrifice covers all men, yes? I mean, the writer of Hebrews wrote the following:

Heb. 9
13For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh,
14how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


15For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
16For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.
17For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives.
18Therefore even the first covenant was not inaugurated without blood.

Heb. 10
11Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;
12but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,
13waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET.
14For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
15And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying,

16“THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM
AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD:
I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART,
AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM,”
He then says,

17“AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS
I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE.”

18Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin.

And so, Jesus is speaking of the "good fish" and "bad fish" in terms which we can understand: the righteous are the "good fish" and the "wicked are the "bad fish"--that's all the fish that there is "in the sea" and so on.

And we who are of faith are the "'good fish" indeed, yes?

[John 8:32]

But John,

Jesus' sacrifice covers all men, yes? I mean, the writer of Hebrews wrote the following:



And so, Jesus is speaking of the "good fish" and "bad fish" in terms which we can understand: the righteous are the "good fish" and the "wicked are the "bad fish"--that's all the fish that there is "in the sea" and so on.

And we who are of faith are the "'good fish" indeed, yes?

There is another category of fish...

Those who have never had a chance, unless we throw out Acts 4:12. Now if can throw out one, we can throw out all. There are people who will not be judged at the reutrn of Christ. That is the purpose of the second resurrection...

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Since there is a first that implies a second.

[John146]

There is another category of fish...

Then why wouldn't Jesus have mentioned that in Matt 13:47-50? He said "the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind" (Matt 13:47). But you are saying there is a kind of fish that the net didn't gather. That contradicts what He said. You are turning something simple into something complicated (again). Jesus said this:

Matt 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Everyone is either with/for Christ or against Him. There's no in-between. He never spoke of a third group of people as you are doing. He always put people in two groups. People are either for Him or against Him. Good or bad. Wicked or just. Wheat or tares. Sheep or goats. And so on. If there was a third group you would think He would have mentioned it but He never did. Again, Mat 13:47-50 speaks of "every kind" of person being gathered and classified into two groups: good and bad (the just and the wicked). What you're saying doesn't line up with what He said.