The world is getting colder and colder - does anyone feel the freeze?

[ChristianAlways]

It seems people are getting more and more ruthless.

Can you anyone else feel this?

Remember 2 Timothy: "....man's heart will grow colder

[Slug1]

It seems people are getting more and more ruthless.

Can you anyone else feel this?

Remember 2 Timothy: "....man's heart will grow colder

Which scripture is this?

[John 8:32]

Which scripture is this?

Dunno, but it sure reminds me of...

Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

[independentDemocra]

yes, I agree. The weather and spiritual climate of the world is cold. I truly do believe that we are living in the End Times as foretold in The Book of Revelations.

Thanks for your time and post...

[Caleb]

2Ti 3:1 But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
2Ti 3:2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
2Ti 3:4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.

I think the OP would mean this passage, which basically is the act of men's hearts will grow colder.

[Slug1]

2Ti 3:1 But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
2Ti 3:2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
2Ti 3:4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.

I think the OP would mean this passage, which basically is the act of men's hearts will grow colder.

Hooah... I was hoping the OPer was gonna post more and a deeper discussion could progress where they are involved.

[buster]

In Illinois, I feel the freeze big time! Illinois basically feels like miles and miles of endless social desert. Nobody in Illinois ever seems to like interacting with anyone outside their immediate cliques. In Chicagoland especially, not only is the social atmosphere very bad, but it even appears that the suburbs are a lot worse with the social atmosphere than Chicago proper. It's like the farther away from Chicago proper I get, the more anti-social the people become. The safer and more well kept a neighborhood is, the more intolerant and even aggressive the locals of that neighborhood are towards anyone who does not live right next door, and in fact, I don't even remember the last time I had ever heard and/or seen any interactions with neighbors in especially the mid and far suburbs of Chicago.

On Halloween 2004, my parents and I went to a pumpkin festival in the small Illinois town of Sycamore, located some 60 miles west of Chicago proper and practically surrounded by miles of virtually endless cornfields. During the festivities which included a parade, I was walking around town and saying "Hi, how are you?" to all the locals, and other than a group of cheerleaders from Northern Illinois University who were handing out fliers for some kind of event at the college, only 3 locals even said "Hi" back to me! 3 locals! And Sycamore's population is well in excess of 10,000 people.

Also, one thing that really pains me a lot is the fact that Illinois women appear to only look for money when they look for a boyfriend/future husband. As if any man who does not wear purple and gold is to disappear. For them, a loving and caring heart, and even physical appearance, come dead last on the list of requirements, even if the man is the most physically attractive guy in the neighborhood.

It is especially shocking and hurtful how fast Chicago's west suburb of Berwyn (where I went to high school) went, in less than a decade, from social paradise to social desert. During my Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years, Morton West High School (the high school I went to, 1994-1999) had loads and more loads of friendly, open, very highly sociable, and occasionally even helpful students. Sophomore year and the first semester of Junior year especially were where I was meeting new people left and right. I had tons of fun at Homecoming, Turnabout, Prom, Snowball Weekend, Ecology club, and other great events. Even in summer, there was some relief from isolation, especially at Berwyn's Pavek Pool, as quite a few friends worked as lifeguards there, and that place had some rather nice other lifeguards, too. And then at the end of my Junior year, the last massive portion of nice students graduated, and at the beginning of my first Senior year, I felt the deterioration in the social atmosphere, as the graduated nice students moved away and were replaced by incoming snobby and highly standoffish students. And by my second Senior year, the social atmosphere had even deteriorated to the point where school dances were losing their appeal, I was spending more and more slow songs sitting out with nobody to dance with, and in fact, I ended up with only 2 dances during the Turnabout dance. Only 2 dances within a 3 and a half hour time span, with an attendance reported to be in excess of 500 students! And then of course, after graduation, more nice people moved on from Berwyn, more friends had permanently quit their summer jobs at the pools, including Pavek pool, even more were even avoiding my then-favorite public pool (Pavek pool), and then as of lately, Morton's football games changed for the worse with the end of open seating in the bleachers (students crammed like sardines into a narrow swath of the north end of the bleachers, blocked by school security and forbidden to sit anywhere else, cheerleaders being forbidden any type of contact with boys, and such). And when I was in high school, it was all open seating in the bleachers, students, faculty, parents, and alumni used to be allowed to sit anywhere they wanted to. Indeed, what a difference a decade can make. During my high school career, the general attitude of Berwynians was; "Hi, how are you?" and "Hi, nice to meet you." Today, the general attitude of Berwynians is "Go away!" and sometimes even "Go away before I call the police!"

[divaD]

In Illinois, I feel the freeze big time! Illinois basically feels like miles and miles of endless social desert. Nobody in Illinois ever seems to like interacting with anyone outside their immediate cliques. In Chicagoland especially, not only is the social atmosphere very bad, but it even appears that the suburbs are a lot worse with the social atmosphere than Chicago proper. It's like the farther away from Chicago proper I get, the more anti-social the people become. The safer and more well kept a neighborhood is, the more intolerant and even aggressive the locals of that neighborhood are towards anyone who does not live right next door, and in fact, I don't even remember the last time I had ever heard and/or seen any interactions with neighbors in especially the mid and far suburbs of Chicago.

On Halloween 2004, my parents and I went to a pumpkin festival in the small Illinois town of Sycamore, located some 60 miles west of Chicago proper and practically surrounded by miles of virtually endless cornfields. During the festivities which included a parade, I was walking around town and saying "Hi, how are you?" to all the locals, and other than a group of cheerleaders from Northern Illinois University who were handing out fliers for some kind of event at the college, only 3 locals even said "Hi" back to me! 3 locals! And Sycamore's population is well in excess of 10,000 people.

Also, one thing that really pains me a lot is the fact that Illinois women appear to only look for money when they look for a boyfriend/future husband. As if any man who does not wear purple and gold is to disappear. For them, a loving and caring heart, and even physical appearance, come dead last on the list of requirements, even if the man is the most physically attractive guy in the neighborhood.

It is especially shocking and hurtful how fast Chicago's west suburb of Berwyn (where I went to high school) went, in less than a decade, from social paradise to social desert. During my Freshman, Sophomore, and Junior years, Morton West High School (the high school I went to, 1994-1999) had loads and more loads of friendly, open, very highly sociable, and occasionally even helpful students. Sophomore year and the first semester of Junior year especially were where I was meeting new people left and right. I had tons of fun at Homecoming, Turnabout, Prom, Snowball Weekend, Ecology club, and other great events. Even in summer, there was some relief from isolation, especially at Berwyn's Pavek Pool, as quite a few friends worked as lifeguards there, and that place had some rather nice other lifeguards, too. And then at the end of my Junior year, the last massive portion of nice students graduated, and at the beginning of my first Senior year, I felt the deterioration in the social atmosphere, as the graduated nice students moved away and were replaced by incoming snobby and highly standoffish students. And by my second Senior year, the social atmosphere had even deteriorated to the point where school dances were losing their appeal, I was spending more and more slow songs sitting out with nobody to dance with, and in fact, I ended up with only 2 dances during the Turnabout dance. Only 2 dances within a 3 and a half hour time span, with an attendance reported to be in excess of 500 students! And then of course, after graduation, more nice people moved on from Berwyn, more friends had permanently quit their summer jobs at the pools, including Pavek pool, even more were even avoiding my then-favorite public pool (Pavek pool), and then as of lately, Morton's football games changed for the worse with the end of open seating in the bleachers (students crammed like sardines into a narrow swath of the north end of the bleachers, blocked by school security and forbidden to sit anywhere else, cheerleaders being forbidden any type of contact with boys, and such). And when I was in high school, it was all open seating in the bleachers, students, faculty, parents, and alumni used to be allowed to sit anywhere they wanted to. Indeed, what a difference a decade can make. During my high school career, the general attitude of Berwynians was; "Hi, how are you?" and "Hi, nice to meet you." Today, the general attitude of Berwynians is "Go away!" and sometimes even "Go away before I call the police!"

I was born and raised in Illinois, and lived there the first 20 years of my life..Effingham..if you've ever heard of it. I don't recall folks being like what you described, for the most part. Of course this was a long time ago. Things might be different there now. The friendliest place I had ever been in my life was Louisville, Kentucky. That was years ago tho. But most of them didn't drive too well tho, in which you found out pretty quick when you tried to exit the freeway and these people were on the shoulders, in the grass, etc, trying to get around other drivers who were also trying to exit.

Now I live in Texarkana. There's a lot of folks here like you described in your area.
Some of these people wouldn't give you the time of day, even if you were waving thousand dollar bills in front of there eyes, would be my guess.

[buster]

Another thing I forgot to mention is that every year, Illinois drivers appear to get more and more reckless and aggressive. More and more of the time, they cut people off, they blaze right past motorists doing the speed limit as if they were standing still, I see more and more Illinois drivers ruthlessly weaving through intersections without any cares for anyone but themselves, even blowing red lights, flooring the gas on a yellow light, and coming within inches of a catastrophic accident. All they ever care about is getting to their destination 3 hours early. In Illinois, it's practically gotten to the point where the courteous drivers appear to make up the minority of the driving population. And in fact, in some neighborhoods, such as in central and northern Cicero, practically nobody shows courtesy towards other motorists anymore, especially on the major roads like Austin Blvd, Central Avenue, Cermak Road/22nd street, and Laramie Avenue.

Even worse yet, it appears that there have lately been some really nasty attituded people working at the Metro Water Reclamation Sewage treatment plant, just south of Cicero in west suburban Stickney. Every time there is a heavy rain, those people appear to deliberately refuse to open the facility's flood gates, causing raw sewage to back up into people's basements, especially all over Cicero's Boulevard Manor neighborhood. In fact, on the morning of July 24th, 2010, when they refused to open the flood locks, my basement flooded to 18 inches (one and a half feet) deep with raw sewage. It took a whole week to clean up the sludge and 2 weeks to get rid of the sewer stench from the basement. The entire basement floor, all 435 square feet of it, had to be washed and scrubbed with bleach and Pine Sol, the medium density fiberboard wall my stepdad put up in the basement bowed and buckled and still retains the buckles today, the washer and furnace eventually malfunctioned and both had to be replaced. The flood did a total of roughly $10,000 damage to the house. Weird too is that just a month prior, there was a storm with a tornado warning, and our basement flooded to about 3 and a half inches deep, once again with raw sewage. And then this past spring (2012) it happened again. It also happened in 2008 as well, and in fact, 2008 was the first time in 11 years that our basement flooded with sewage. Another oddity is that we did not get any sewage when the remnants of Hurricane Ike dumped a lot of rain on Chicagoland. Before 2008, the last time our basement flooded with sewage was on August 16th 1997, when the basement flooded to roughly 5 inches deep.

[buster]

P.S. I just read the news that Wisconsin's Tea Party Governor has just survived a governor recall attempt. Looks like a lot more people than I thought have grown cold towards the lower and middle class, especially towards people with disabilities, and they care only about money and being rich in it. Looks like Wisconsin is continuing an unstoppable plummet with jobs, services for people with disabilities, medicaid, and much more.

[Liquid Tension]

P.S. I just read the news that Wisconsin's Tea Party Governor has just survived a governor recall attempt. Looks like a lot more people than I thought have grown cold towards the lower and middle class, especially towards people with disabilities, and they care only about money and being rich in it. Looks like Wisconsin is continuing an unstoppable plummet with jobs, services for people with disabilities, medicaid, and much more.

Yeah, oooooooookay. If a Republican wins the Presidency, the world will really grow colder, right?? Give me a break. Stretch much??


BTW, nice way to get this thread thrown into Contro.

[Raybob]

yes, I agree. The weather and spiritual climate of the world is cold. I truly do believe that we are living in the End Times as foretold in The Book of Revelations.

Thanks for your time and post...

As for weather, I don't see it. New Year's Eve, I played music at a ski resort. There wasn't a speck of snow anywhere near that ski resort (Kirkwood). As for people getting 'colder', guess that depends on where you are and who you try to talk to. Texas has the friendliest people in the US. The coldest (most heartless) people I've ever seen were in Hollywood.

[buster]

As for weather, I don't see it. New Year's Eve, I played music at a ski resort. There wasn't a speck of snow anywhere near that ski resort (Kirkwood). As for people getting 'colder', guess that depends on where you are and who you try to talk to. Texas has the friendliest people in the US. The coldest (most heartless) people I've ever seen were in Hollywood.

Weird I guess that the friendliest people I have encountered are in Florida. I have also in fact been to Texas once before, as well as Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, Indiana, New Jersey, Georgia, South Dakota, Minnesota, and of course Wisconsin.

And so far, the coldest and most heartless people I have ever encountered, and in fact, the biggest lack of friendly people I have ever encountered, are in DuPage County, Illinois, especially towards the west half of DuPage County.

On the other hand, it seems that the friendliest people, as well as the largest portions of friendly people I have ever encountered, are along the Gulf Coast of Florida, especially in Crystal River, Fort Myers/Cape Coral, including the Naples Park/Vanderbilt Beach area, and even Key West.

[Diggindeeper]

Weird I guess that the friendliest people I have encountered are in Florida. I have also in fact been to Texas once before, as well as Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, Indiana, New Jersey, Georgia, South Dakota, Minnesota, and of course Wisconsin.

And so far, the coldest and most heartless people I have ever encountered, and in fact, the biggest lack of friendly people I have ever encountered, are in DuPage County, Illinois, especially towards the west half of DuPage County.

On the other hand, it seems that the friendliest people, as well as the largest portions of friendly people I have ever encountered, are along the Gulf Coast of Florida, especially in Crystal River, Fort Myers/Cape Coral, including the Naples Park/Vanderbilt Beach area, and even Key West.

Y'all haven't been to Tennessee? THAT is where you'll find the friendliest people in the world!

[Raybob]

Y'all haven't been to Tennessee? THAT is where you'll find the friendliest people in the world!

Ya'all Tennesseans come a close second to Texas. I recall driving from Ky to CA in '92, the southern route, via Nashville and Austin. At that time, in Tennessee, I had to hand them my credit card before I could fill up. In Texas, you just pulled the pump and started filling, no card required to start it. Now that's hospitality to total strangers.