What does the Bible say about marijuana?

[BrianW]

Quoting out of context a poor translation of a verse from the first chapter of Genesis is not a “nice” use of Scripture—it is an abuse of the Bible. The Bible does not specifically mention marijuana or the use of it. The Bible does, however, provide us with some very important guidelines for living our lives. These guidelines are best found by a careful, prayerful reading of the Bible from cover to cover.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Have you any scripture, in context, that would show that the use of marijuana is a sin? If you do please post it and enlighten me because so far....no one has done that.

I've read the bible cover to cover many times already and will do so again many times before I die unless He takes me soon. I agree about it being a guideline. In fact I would say that it and the Holy Spirit are the cornerstones of the foundations of a Christian life and even more. The importance of the bible and it's study cannot be stressed enough I think.

[BrianW]

Now you're meddling...

On a serious note, I agree that fast food is not the best thing for your body, and it should definitely be eaten in careful moderation, but I have never had a mind- altering experience from fast food.

Me either. But I've seen many, many people that are obese or at least overweight and that can lead to a whole host of health problems and even death for those that eat food from these fast food places almost religiously or cook and eat in the same way in their homes.

A happy meal or whatever eaten once every six months or once a year I don't think is any big deal. But if fast food is your main source of food or close to it...yeah, that is a problem and could be seen as sinful.

[Jemand]

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Have you any scripture, in context, that would show that the use of marijuana is a sin? If you do please post it and enlighten me because so far....no one has done that.

I've read the bible cover to cover many times already and will do so again many times before I die unless He takes me soon.

My point is that the truth of this matter is not found in Bible verses quoted out of context—the truth of this matter is found in an accurate understanding of the Bible, that accurate understanding coming from carefully and prayerfully reading the Bible from cover to cover.

There are other such matters the truth of which cannot be found in Bible verses quoted out of context. For example—the matter of voluntary abortions, a matter that is not mentioned in any verses in the Bible, and a matter that is best understood by carefully and prayerfully reading the Bible from cover to cover—the very thing that Tom needs to do.

[andrew_no_one]

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Have you any scripture, in context, that would show that the use of marijuana is a sin? If you do please post it and enlighten me because so far....no one has done that.

What's the point? You get the same arguments street evangelizing when "Christians" wander up stumbling drunk and somehow think they're theology experts. Do what you gotta do, but don’t be surprised if you’re denied the arm of fellowship from most real churches.

Romans 8:12-14
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

[Jemand]

A happy meal or whatever eaten once every six months or once a year I don't think is any big deal.

The logical conclusion from your statement in the context of this thread,

“Smoking pot once every six months or once a year I don't think is any big deal.”

Is smoking pot, in and of itself, a sin; or is it only a sin if done very often?

[andrew_no_one]

The logical conclusion from your statement in the context of this thread,

“Smoking pot once every six months or once a year I don't think is any big deal.”

Is smoking pot, in and of itself, a sin; or is it only a sin if done very often?

How many times must I steal to be a thief? Does a bell go off on my third absconding?

[BrianW]

Do you guy's really think I would be denied fellowship over saying something such as I've said in this thread? Really? And I'm compared to a stumbling drunk?

If so I would ask how many fornicators are allowed fellowship in your churches? How many adulterers are allowed fellowship eh? You know the ones that have been divorced and remarried, some more than once just because they were "unhappy and unfulfilled"? I wonder how many don't see anything wrong with drinking a few beers on Friday night and showing up bright and early on Sunday for worship?
How many gossips do you have? How many liars? I'm sure not everyone who comes to worship is in excellent shape and you have some overweight people there. Where do you draw the line of healthy eater who eats a little too much and glutton and do you tell the one you deem a glutton that they aren't welcome to fellowship?

[andrew_no_one]

Do you guy's really think I would be denied fellowship over saying something such as I've said in this thread? Really? And I'm compared to a stumbling drunk?

If so I would ask how many fornicators are allowed fellowship in your churches? How many adulterers are allowed fellowship eh? You know the ones that have been divorced and remarried, some more than once just because they were "unhappy and unfulfilled"? I wonder how many don't see anything wrong with drinking a few beers on Friday night and showing up bright and early on Sunday for worship?
How many gossips do you have? How many liars? I'm sure not everyone who comes to worship is in excellent shape and you have some overweight people there. Where do you draw the line of healthy eater who eats a little too much and glutton and do you tell the one you deem a glutton that they aren't welcome to fellowship?

How many “Devil’s advocates” should be allowed into fellowship?

[Jemand]

Do you guy's really think I would be denied fellowship over saying something such as I've said in this thread?

No, absolutely not!

[BrianW]

How many “Devil’s advocates” should be allowed into fellowship?

That's not an answer dude. If you're going to accuse me of something why not go all the way.

If I would be denied fellowship for essentially saying "I haven't seen in scripture anything that would lead me to believe it is a sin in and of itself" then there's a problem there and I don't think it's with me.

[BrianW]

My point is that the truth of this matter is not found in Bible verses quoted out of context—the truth of this matter is found in an accurate understanding of the Bible, that accurate understanding coming from carefully and prayerfully reading the Bible from cover to cover.

There are other such matters the truth of which cannot be found in Bible verses quoted out of context. For example—the matter of voluntary abortions, a matter that is not mentioned in any verses in the Bible, and a matter that is best understood by carefully and prayerfully reading the Bible from cover to cover—the very thing that Tom needs to do.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to overlook this post. Believe it or not I agree with what you've written here completely.

[andrew_no_one]

What’s the problem? Are you formulating some rebuttal for if/when this occurs in real life? Are you trying to get someone to say “Yeah, smoke it up. If the Bible doesn’t explicitly forbid it, that means everyone should be doing it.”
What’s the point? Should we install smoke-eaters in the church ceilings so that people can comfortably come in and do whatever they want “as long as they’re listening to the message”?
I’d didn’t think drug use would ever be a grey area. Maybe a couple folks will sit down sometime and form the United Christian Bartenders Association. “That’s right folks, we’re smoking and pouring whiskey for the glory of Jesus Christ”.

[BrianW]

If that's what you've gotten from what I've written in this thread then we are clearly not communicating on the same wave length or you haven't bothered to read everything I wrote.

[andrew_no_one]

If marijuana wasn't illegal to use where I live I'd still be using it.

Does the law of the land determine how we conduct ourselves before God?

[BrianW]

Give it a rest dude. Seriously. Or post 500 more questions I don't care. You don't want to fellowship with me remember? I'll respect your wishes.