The Six Commandments?

[Vhayes]

You sir, are a professional Scriptue twister. Now go back and tell us the CONTEXT.

And you are one bitter and angry man.

Now - can we get back to discussing or is this gonna become a slam session?

[Sojourner55]

Wing Nut Daily doesn't count. That's like me asking you to accept something from The Daily KOS as "real" news.

How convenient for you. As I said, if these types of stories weren't ignored by lefty news outlets because it doesn't serve their purposes, I wouldn't have to cite the conservative ones that you don't like.

[TomH]

I would agree that consulting an attorney seems justified in this case, but there was an injustice done. And the teacher should have made a personal apology to the child, instead of the principal. And perhaps the teacher should also bone up on the law and school policy, huh?

Really, you're getting away from the general discussion. ONE INDIVIDUAL!

Making a personal apology is being polite.

The discussion is not about individual mistakes (although it seems that this is where the two of you want to take it).

It's about government (mostly school systems by the links) policies, preventing free speech.

Other than the link that V pointed out, there really is no discussion to be had about institutions having their policies upheld when challenged.

[keck553]

And you are one bitter and angry man.

Now - can we get back to discussing or is this gonna become a slam session?

You don't know me very well, do you? Nice try though.

But if someone is going to pull out one verse out of context to control another person's expression of faith, I am going to call them on it. If you think that is a characteristic of anger and bitterness, you need to check your own heart.

[Athanasius]

This one actually deserves some discussion. I'd have to read more about it but I would think there is room here to discuss what happened.

This particular student's lawsuit was thrown out, if anyone is interested in an update.

As for the case itself, the student didn't seem particularly well-informed when it comes to gender issues, so I can understood (partially) why the school did what they did, although I do think they went overboard. But is this anything different than what Christians schools do when they do disqualify students on matters of belief or lifestyle? It just seems like a double-standard. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

[Vhayes]

Not interested in dancing. Will you proclaim Jesus in ANY venue or not?

Sure. Why wouldn't I?

Would I go out of my way to stand in front of a high school football game, go up to the announcers booth, grab the mic out of the hand of the play-by-play announcer and start a sermon? Of COURSE not - why WOULD I?

Would I talk to the person next to me? Certainly - no qualms at all.

[Vhayes]

You don't know me very well, do you? Nice try though.

But if someone is going to pull out one verse out of context to control another person's expression of faith, I am going to call them on it. If you think that is a characteristic of anger and bitterness, you need to check your own heart.

You need to read your posts...

[keck553]

Sure. Why wouldn't I?

Would I go out of my way to stand in front of a high school football game, go up to the announcers booth, grab the mic out of the hand of the play-by-play announcer and start a sermon? Of COURSE not - why WOULD I?

Would I talk to the person next to me? Certainly - no qualms at all.

Thank you for answering. I hope you would allow all others to do it as well.

[keck553]

You need to read your posts...

Done. Now what?

[keck553]

This particular student's lawsuit was thrown out, if anyone is interested in an update.

As for the case itself, the student didn't seem particularly well-informed when it comes to gender issues, so I can understood (partially) why the school did what they did, although I do think they went overboard. But is this anything different than what Christians schools do when they do disqualify students on matters of belief or lifestyle? It just seems like a double-standard. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

Don't Christian schools have God's standards layed out on the incoming side of attending?

[Vhayes]

This particular student's lawsuit was thrown out, if anyone is interested in an update.

As for the case itself, the student didn't seem particularly well-informed when it comes to gender issues, so I can understood (partially) why the school did what they did, although I do think they went overboard. But is this anything different than what Christians schools do when they do disqualify students on matters of belief or lifestyle? It just seems like a double-standard. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

Thanks for the updated information. That'll save me a whole lot of reading.

In answer to your question - Christian schools are not tax funded - they are privately funded and the administration or denomination does indeed have complete control over what they teach and how they teach it. I remember a news account a while back where a Catholic school terminated an unmarried lay teacher when she told them she was pregnant. I have no issues with that decision. She KNEW the "rules" when she took the job.

Hope that helps explain that a bit.

[Vhayes]

Done. Now what?

Nothing. I see the love for others shining all over your posts :-)

[TomH]

You sir, are a professional Scriptue twister. Now go back and tell us the CONTEXT.

Sure keck.

What I'd posted was actually Jesus giving instruction countering this,
Matthew 6
New International Version (NIV)
Giving to the Needy

6*“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2*“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3*But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4*so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


Sorta like, denouncing public display of those things that should be done in private.

I believe that bowing ones head with hands clasped in prayer, when done in public, would qualify as a public display, wouldn't you?

Show me the twist you're referring to.

[Athanasius]

Don't Christian schools have God's standards layed out on the incoming side of attending?

Do secular institutions need to state the obvious?

Thanks for the updated information. That'll save me a whole lot of reading.

In answer to your question - Christian schools are not tax funded - they are privately funded and the administration or denomination does indeed have complete control over what they teach and how they teach it. I remember a news account a while back where a Catholic school terminated an unmarried lay teacher when she told them she was pregnant. I have no issues with that decision. She KNEW the "rules" when she took the job.

Hope that helps explain that a bit.

Makes sense. So why didn't this student go to a Christian university?

[Vhayes]

Thank you for answering. I hope you would allow all others to do it as well.

Absolutely. I've had some really good conversations that started in pretty much that manner - not a football game but in a general venue. I'm a private person but I've never met a stranger. If you talk to me, I'll talk with you.