The Six Commandments?

[Vhayes]

All I see is embracement of sin in the name of tolerance. Jesus caredd for REPENTANT people for sure, but that's not why He came. Note how many times He commanded someone to STOP SINNING (repent) after He healed or delivered them. . He came to free us from what many Christians embrace in the name of tolerance and progressive liberalism - sin. That is the ultimate hypocrasy in a believer, to justify bondage to sin in the name of "caring for people." only the adversary would approve of that.

A further explanation of these points would be appreciated as well. Is this in answer to a post or just a random thought?

[awestruckchild]

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about this one too. It seemed to be a response to your post #232, which was the truth, so I didn't get what his argument was....

[keck553]

I Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?

13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

It's really hard to improve on this and it's as clear as a bell.

Except that is not the context of my post.

[keck553]

A further explanation of these points would be appreciated as well. Is this in answer to a post or just a random thought?

Here are a few

Embracing

Legalized homosexual "marraige"
Infanticide
Changing gender roles
Redistrbution of wealth
Universalism
Postmodernism

[Vhayes]

Except that is not the context of my post.

Then what IS the context of your post?

[Vhayes]

Here are a few

Embracing

Legalized homosexual "marraige"
Infanticide
Changing gender roles
Redistrbution of wealth
Universalism
Postmodernism

You are saying list list is being embraced by churches?

[keck553]

Then what IS the context of your post?

Christians embracing sin In the form of legislation of legalizing murder, legitimizing sexual perversion, and allowing or supporting leftists to teach our children that it is a hate crime to call sin what it is. None of which has anything to do with love.

[keck553]

You are saying list list is being embraced by churches?

Some congregations - definately. Even the NIV was corrupted by an individual who is an activist for all on that list.

[Vhayes]

Christians embracing sin In the form of legislation of legalizing murder, legitimizing sexual perversion, and allowing or supporting leftists to teach our children that it is a hate crime to call sin what it is. None of which has anything to do with love.

What do any of those have to do with Christians? And AS Christians, we are told to NOT judge unbelievers. Just because something is legal does not mean you have to partake OR embrace.

[keck553]

What do any of those have to do with Christians? And AS Christians, we are told to NOT judge unbelievers. Just because something is legal does not mean you have to partake OR embrace.

I said nothing about unbelievers. Our President supports these things and he claims to be a Christian. Are you saying he isn't a Christian?

You don't believe these people who claim to be Christians or these comgregations that claim the be Christians that support homosexual "marraige," etc. are really Christians then? You are indicting a lot of people as unbelievers Vhayes. Who's being the judge now?

And yes, we WILL be forced to embrace it. With our taxes, in our businesses and with our restricted speech.

[Vhayes]

So when Jesus paid his tax to Caesar/Rome, He was embracing worshipping Jupiter or Mars?

America is a nation filled with different people. Some of those people happen to be homosexual. They have the same "rights" - or should have - as anyone else - even the Christian who happens to despise them.

And no, Keck, I am not indicting anyone. The homosexuals I know are not Christian. They are not because all they see is hatred coming from those who profess Christ. But scripture is clear - our place as Christians is to leave the judgement of nonbelievers to God.

[keck553]

So when Jesus paid his tax to Caesar/Rome, He was embracing worshipping Jupiter or Mars?

America is a nation filled with different people. Some of those people happen to be homosexual. They have the same "rights" - or should have - as anyone else - even the Christian who happens to despise them.

And no, Keck, I am not indicting anyone. The homosexuals I know are not Christian. They are not because all they see is hatred coming from those who profess Christ. But scripture is clear - our place as Christians is to leave the judgement of nonbelievers to God.

Everyone DOES have the same rights silly. Name ONE right I have that a person who chooses to be homosexual doesn't have.

Once again and don't miss it this time. My post clearly adresses Christians. Please don't change the context of my own words.

No, He was making a point with the sadducees who were already colaborating with Rome and thus had a master other than God..In case you didn't read the latest news, Jesus owns everything, including Ceaser.

Te rest of your post is utter nonsense. Blaming a Christian for another person's rejection of God is a pile of rubbish. People blame Christians becaus Jews reject Christ, and all other sorts of nonsense. Here's a newsflah - People rejected Jesus right to His face. It's not any dirrerent now. There are only two kinds of people on the planet. Those to humble themselves and repent and those who pride themselves and reject their Creator. You want to shift the blame on someone else, you go right ahead, but your judgement is irrelavent. Saved people aren't called by Christians, they are called by God. They repent and walk away from their sinful lifestyles. THEY are the ones who are hated for Christ's sake. Read Luke 6. Jesus says so. We are to rejoice in that hated and persecution, not run into a corner and whine and sulk about how "unfair" life is. But no one will be hated for Christ's sake as long as they wallow in sin.

[Vhayes]

Everyone DOES have the same rights silly. Name ONE right I have that a person who chooses to be homosexual doesn't have.

Once again and don't miss it this time. My post clearly adresses Christians. Please don't change the context of my own words.

No, He was making a point with the sadducees who were already colaborating with Rome and thus had a master other than God..In case you didn't read the latest news, Jesus owns everything, including Ceaser.

Te rest of your post is utter nonsense. Blaming a Christian for another person's rejection of God is a pile of rubbish. People blame Christians becaus Jews reject Christ, and all other sorts of nonsense. Here's a newsflah - People rejected Jesus right to His face. It's not any dirrerent now. There are only two kinds of people on the planet. Those to humble themselves and repent and those who pride themselves and reject their Creator. You want to shift the blame on someone else, you go right ahead, but your judgement is irrelavent. Saved people aren't called by Christians, they are called by God. They repent and walk away from their sinful lifestyles. THEY are the ones who are hated for Christ's sake. Read Luke 6. Jesus says so. We are to rejoice in that hated and persecution, not run into a corner and whine and sulk about how "unfair" life is. But no one will be hated for Christ's sake as long as they wallow in sin.

If anyone who is not a Christian red your posts, they would have NO desire to be as you.

Love.

Learn it. Please.

[Vhayes]

Everyone DOES have the same rights silly. Name ONE right I have that a person who chooses to be homosexual doesn't have.

They cannot have the same civic rights as a husband and wife in cases of inheritance, medical decisions and several other areas.

Once again and don't miss it this time. My post clearly adresses Christians. Please don't change the context of my own words.

So, I'm silly and you're rude. You are telling me that I cannot be a Christian because I say Americans are Americans.

No, He was making a point with the sadducees who were already colaborating with Rome and thus had a master other than God..In case you didn't read the latest news, Jesus owns everything, including Ceaser.

Funny - I agree with you here. Completely. But you may want to rethink your stance - the republican party will not save you but there are whole lotta folks who think the Republican party is endorsed by God.

Te rest of your post is utter nonsense. Blaming a Christian for another person's rejection of God is a pile of rubbish. People blame Christians becaus Jews reject Christ, and all other sorts of nonsense. Here's a newsflah - People rejected Jesus right to His face. It's not any dirrerent now. There are only two kinds of people on the planet. Those to humble themselves and repent and those who pride themselves and reject their Creator.

Yep. It's been the same from day one.

You want to shift the blame on someone else, you go right ahead, but your judgement is irrelavent. Saved people aren't called by Christians, they are called by God. They repent and walk away from their sinful lifestyles. THEY are the ones who are hated for Christ's sake. Read Luke 6. Jesus says so. We are to rejoice in that hated and persecution, not run into a corner and whine and sulk about how "unfair" life is. But no one will be hated for Christ's sake as long as they wallow in sin.

What was it Ghandi said again?

Life IS unfair.

You are silly. Plain old silly.

[Bandit]

Hey guys, discuss the issues, but leave personal attacks (however subtle) at home. I'm sensing too much personal agitation here.