Old Earth and Original Sin

[Ta-An]

Genesis 1:29

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Yeah right

[Noeb]

Ta-An,
tree of life?
Adam had to work in the garden?

[Indueseason]

Genesis 1:29

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Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

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blessings to you

[Ta-An]

Ta-An,
tree of life?
Adam had to work in the garden?

I don't understand what you mean

[Noeb]

Ta-An,
don't you know a seed is not made alive unless it dies?

[Noeb]

What was the tree of life for?

[RabbiKnife]

Adam and Eve ate plants. The act of a human eating a plant kills the plant, or at least the part of the plant that is eaten.

Or, as the weird fruitopian chick in the moving "Notting Hill" put it in response to Hugh Grant's question about the braised carrots...

"Yes, um, they were murdered."

[Ta-An]

Adam and Eve ate plants. The act of a human eating a plant kills the plant, or at least the part of the plant that is eaten.

Or, as the weird fruitopian chick in the moving "Notting Hill" put it in response to Hugh Grant's question about the braised carrots...

"Yes, um, they were murdered."

Only that with a soul can claim life ..... plants was given as food to sustain life, so its purpose is different

[RabbiKnife]

So plants are not alive?

"Soul" has nothing to do with "life".

[John 8:32]

So plants are not alive?

"Soul" has nothing to do with "life".

On the contrary, it has everything to do with life...

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

H5315
נפשׁ
nephesh
neh'-fesh
From H5314; properly a breathing creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): - any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead (-ly), desire, X [dis-] contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortality, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.

[RabbiKnife]

"Soul" does not equal "life."

"Soul" equals "soul."

Are living plants dead?

[Noeb]

So, like I said, "what was the tree of life for?"

[Noeb]

RK, they sure look dead to me when they don't get water!

[Saved7]

MOD NOTE: Let's get back on topic before it gets derailed about whether or not there are two different kinds of life...that of the soul and that of the plant.

[Noeb]

Secondly, Ephesians 2:3 says that we are by nature children of wrath. Certainly the God who looked and saw everything He had made and said it was very good did not create man in this fashion, but sin made him so.

If man is not born a slave to sin, then it would be possible for a man to live a life free from personal sin apart from Divine Grace, as Pelagius erroneously asserted.

Ephesians 2 says we were naturally, by course (including all things that affect -including no fellowship with God), children of wrath because we "walked according to the course of this world", that our life was in the lusts of the flesh and desires of the flesh and mind, and that we were dead in our own tresspasses and sins. Like I said earlier, brought forth innocent into a world with sin in a carnal existence with flesh, not having God, makes sin the natural way for all men to go.

Pelagius said "but by the Grace of God" when answering, if man can live without sin.