Centuries old bible 'mean Christianity's downfall'

[Warrior4God]

No: 4 divisions, with a full compliment of air support and sea forces.



Yes, they are. You are either with God (a Christian) or His enemy (a non-Christian). I will go one step further, and also say that if you are against God, and His enemy, you will be going to hell when you die. No 77 virgins, no rebirth as a tree, or antelope, no being reborn to relive your life here on earth again. Hell: eternal separation from the only true, loving God. Because, in the end, we will be answering to Him.

Yes, but "children of the Devil," which you also were before you came to Christ, can be reconciled to God through the sacrificial death of Jesus. It doesn't have to be a permanent condition to be an "enemy" of God. Let's not lose sight of that fact.

[ChristianCoffee]

Yes, but "children of the Devil," which you also were before you came to Christ, can be reconciled to God through the sacrificial death of Jesus. It doesn't have to be a permanent condition to be an "enemy" of God. Let's not lose sight of that fact.

I have not lost sight of that fact: I am reminded of it every day I look in a mirror. But look at King Saul (to name one): he allowed his sin to have the better of him. He refused to REPENT, and that is a key issue. When someone is fed a lie constantly, that is what they want to believe. I understand everyone is a form of a Prodigal son in their life, but most will continue to eat the potato peelings and such, instead of choosing to dine at His table.

[Saved7]

The Moslem religion did not come into existence until 600ad, in other words when Jesus walked this earth there was no such thing as Muslims and would not be for the following 600 years. Therefore no Apostle that knew Christ personally would have any chance of even knowing what a Muslim was.

Back then Allah was still the pagan god known as Sin being worshipped in Egypt



What happened was Mohamed needed to find one pagan deity that he could use to unify the tribes with so he scrapped all the other idols and just kept this one. Renamed him Allah and then put together a book to counter the scriptures. At the time Christianity was already well established and spreading.

Yup, in total agreement here. Thanks for that bit of information, I'm sure many of our readers will find it helpful in coming to understand why Islam is rejected by Christians.

[claybevan]

May 25, 2012


Iran claims a recently discovered, centuries old bible will prove once and for all that Islam is the one true religion.

The bible, confiscated from smugglers by Turkish authorities in 2000 is believed to come from the fifth century and is made from animal hide.
Experts believe it may be a copy of the Gospel as written by Jesus' disciple Barnabas, but Iranian state press claims it is much more than that.

Basij Press in Iran says the bible contains information that will trigger Christianity's downfall, and prove Islam as the superior religion.

Basij Press has quoted this version of the bible as saying "God has hidden himself as Archangel Michael ran them (Adam and Eve) out of heaven, (and) when Adam turned, he noticed that at top of the gateway to heaven, it was written "La elah ela Allah, Mohamad rasool Allah,"' meaning Allah is the only God and Mohammad his prophet.
Iranian state press went on to report the bible saying that Jesus never died on the cross, and that he himself predicted Mohammed's coming.
The book was found by authorities on 2000 during a crackdown on antiques smugglers, but excitement has recently been generated by claims The Vatican wants to get its hands on the book.
In February it was claimed The Vatican had made an official request to view the book, which is thought to still lie in a Turkish museum.
While most experts have rubbished Iran's claims, the Islamic nation is adamant the book means the downfall of Christianity.
"The most significant fact, though, is that this Bible has predicted the coming of Prophet Mohammad and in itself has verified the religion of Islam," state television claims.

The Bible did predict the coming of muhammad... many false prophets will come, do not believe them, I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me.
So if that's true and I believe it is, all other claims coming from that camp are false too.

[EarlyCall]

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I couldn't help but think, had you substituted the OP's name, exiledchristian for 'OP', it would have been almost humorous. Well, maybe only to me.

[Fenris]

I just have to LOL about this topic. It's the same people who say that "There were never Jews in Israel" (even though the archeological record is beyond doubt) and "There was never a temple in Jerusalem" (even though the walls are there for all to see) and even "The Holocaust never happened" (even though he have survivors and convicted men who carried it out).

The truth may be freely cast aside is it helps support their beliefs.

[Saved7]

I know Fenris, that was what I was thinking too.

[claybevan]

I just have to LOL about this topic. It's the same people who say that "There were never Jews in Israel" (even though the archeological record is beyond doubt) and "There was never a temple in Jerusalem" (even though the walls are there for all to see) and even "The Holocaust never happened" (even though he have survivors and convicted men who carried it out).

The truth may be freely cast aside is it helps support their beliefs.

I once got into a debate ( if you could call it that) with a muslim about Islam, much to my husbands amusement and it got me looking into their faith a little deeper.
There is a story in the hadith that goes loosely like this: Muhammad went to visit a Jewish man who's son was sick, ( I assume he either knew him or employed him} when he got there he found the father praying and reading the Torah to his son, Muhammad asked the father " Am I in the book" the son immediately replied, "no" but his father quickly followed up with a "yes, you are" to which Muhammad said to the servant who was with him,"give this man everything he and his son need, make sure they lack for nothing" Muhammad went away a happy man but I imagine the father was even happier.
Tis a strange prophet that has to ask!

[Fenris]

Tis a strange prophet that has to ask!

Yeah, there's some wackiness going on there.

One part of the Koran has Haman (A lackey of the Persian king in the book of Esther) meeting with Pharaoh (from the book of Exodus, more than 1000 years earlier) to build the tower of Babel (from Genesis, hundreds of years earlier yet).

[Saved7]

Yeah, there's some wackiness going on there.

One part of the Koran has Haman (A lackey of the Persian king in the book of Esther) meeting with Pharaoh (from the book of Exodus, more than 1000 years earlier) to build the tower of Babel (from Genesis, hundreds of years earlier yet).

Gee whiz Fenris don't you know these "great men" could travel through time!

It amazes me that even now that these poor folks have access to real history lessons, they still believe that blasted koran. It's gotta be fear that holds them there.