Wrath of the Lamb

[Vakeros]

I do believe the bible disagrees with you.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

I presume you aren't disagreeing with the part that I agree with you about. So are you saying that the Bible teaches that the 7 seals and the 7 trumpets and the 7 vials are brought about by the devil? That is an odd way of interpreting scripture.
The time of the great wrath leads into the time of the Great Tribulation which lasts approximately 3.5 years. I thought you believed that, but now I am confused.

[Raybob]

I presume you aren't disagreeing with the part that I agree with you about. So are you saying that the Bible teaches that the 7 seals and the 7 trumpets and the 7 vials are brought about by the devil? That is an odd way of interpreting scripture.

That would be odd. No I never said such a thing. I don't see any of God's wrath in the seals until the Lord's return. I don't see any of God's wrath in the trumpets until the Lord's return (last trumpet), and I do see God's wrath being explained all after the Lord's return in Rev 14 (winepress of wrath) and in the 7 vials of wrath. I don't see any mention of God's wrath before the return of the Lord mentioned, only Satan's wrath is mentioned prior to the return of the Lord, in Revelation.

The time of the great wrath leads into the time of the Great Tribulation which lasts approximately 3.5 years. I thought you believed that, but now I am confused.

I wouldn't know where in the world you could get such an idea.

[Vakeros]

That would be odd. No I never said such a thing. I don't see any of God's wrath in the seals until the Lord's return. I don't see any of God's wrath in the trumpets until the Lord's return (last trumpet), and I do see God's wrath being explained all after the Lord's return in Rev 14 (winepress of wrath) and in the 7 vials of wrath. I don't see any mention of God's wrath before the return of the Lord mentioned, only Satan's wrath is mentioned prior to the return of the Lord, in Revelation.
I wouldn't know where in the world you could get such an idea.

You know when you state things like the above then I am almost agreeing with you. My difference is that I see the 7 vials after the 7th trumpet is sounded. I see Jesus returning at the time of the 7th vial, which coincides with the battle with the beast. The devil's wrath is also only after the seventh trumpet, but as you put above, before Jesus' return.