Marriage?

[claybevan]

The bible sure doesn't mention licenses, or cerimonies or rituals of any sort.

Gen_25:1 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.

Not much of a ceremony there. Doubt that they even had a license, nor even a 'man of the cloth'.

Maybe they had a broom

[nimblewillsgrace]

The government will not force anyone to marry anyone, let alone someone of the same sex - so there is no "submission" involved. No one is rounding up women and forcing them to have abortions - no one must "submit" to that law.

But we are told, quite clearly,
I Peter 2
13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority,
14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.
15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

You live by the laws of the land in which you find yourself. It really is that basic.

Thanks for clearing that up. However I really didn't mean submit as in being made to, but I guess accept would have been a better word.

[RSouthward]

Marriage is not simply a commitment. You can make a commitment to each other and just date. Marriage is a COVENANT, a binding agreement or contract like that which God made to His people.

[Diggindeeper]

"Shacking up," no matter what you call it, is not marriage by any stretch of the word. This is supposed to be a covenant relationship with God between a man and a woman and should point to Christ and the church, not Christ and some harlot. Just because two people agree not to fornicate with anyone besides each other, doesn't make it marriage any more than wearing a stupid hat makes you a pope.

You know, I've had dogs and I really, really committed to them...to love them and care for them and honor them till death parted us. And I did too.

Now, to the subject and I'm sure this is not the 'subject' here, but I've got to say it...

55 years ago last month, my husband MARRIED me. He loved me enough that he did not choose to simply move in with me and use me as a harlot, a bed partner. He loved me enough that he gave me his name to wear for the rest of my life. I bore him 4 children, and they too wear his name! Thank God for a man that cares enough to give his woman his name for the rest of her life, and also that his children can also wear that name!

I am honored and proud that he did that for us.

We never had to be ashamed to take people into our home when they had no home to go to, or to care for them and feed them when they needed a bed to sleep in or food to eat for a time.

My husband took his last breath Sunday, with me by his side, holding his hand after a battle with cancer... Even now, I will receive Social Security benefits from him because he cared enough for me to give me his name legally.

He was a good man, a God fearing man. He chose to honor me by asking me to become his wife. Legally! By doing that, he kept my name honorable all these years, because I wear HIS name. No one ever had to look at me as a harlot. No, I was his WIFE. And our children can never be called bastards, because they have his name also!

If a man REALLY loves a woman, why cause her to be the object of demeaning remarks or thought? Is it that they can't afford the small cost of a legal LICENSE? I'm just sincerely wondering. Friends, a PRETEND marriage can never be a real marriage. The Bible says,
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Thank God for Godly men, who expect to give respect to the woman they choose to bed down with for the rest of their life! Thank you Lord for the good man you gave me.

Just help me to stop hurting so bad since he's gone, Lord. Thank you, that he honored me enough to legally marry me those many years ago. Now all I ask is to show me, Lord, how to go on living without him in my life. Without his voice, his touch, his caring for me and protecting me. How do I do that, Lord?

[nimblewillsgrace]

You know, I've had dogs and I really, really committed to them...to love them and care for them and honor them till death parted us. And I did too.

Now, to the subject and I'm sure this is not the 'subject' here, but I've got to say it...

55 years ago last month, my husband MARRIED me. He loved me enough that he did not choose to simply move in with me and use me as a harlot, a bed partner. He loved me enough that he gave me his name to wear for the rest of my life. I bore him 4 children, and they too wear his name! Thank God for a man that cares enough to give his woman his name for the rest of her life, and also that his children can also wear that name!

I am honored and proud that he did that for us.

We never had to be ashamed to take people into our home when they had no home to go to, or to care for them and feed them when they needed a bed to sleep in or food to eat for a time.

My husband took his last breath Sunday, with me by his side, holding his hand after a battle with cancer... Even now, I will receive Social Security benefits from him because he cared enough for me to give me his name legally.

He was a good man, a God fearing man. He chose to honor me by asking me to become his wife. Legally! By doing that, he kept my name honorable all these years, because I wear HIS name. No one ever had to look at me as a harlot. No, I was his WIFE. And our children can never be called bastards, because they have his name also!

If a man REALLY loves a woman, why cause her to be the object of demeaning remarks or thought? Is it that they can't afford the small cost of a legal LICENSE? I'm just sincerely wondering. Friends, a PRETEND marriage can never be a real marriage. The Bible says,
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Thank God for Godly men, who expect to give respect to the woman they choose to bed down with for the rest of their life! Thank you Lord for the good man you gave me.

Just help me to stop hurting so bad since he's gone, Lord. Thank you, that he honored me enough to legally marry me those many years ago. Now all I ask is to show me, Lord, how to go on living without him in my life. Without his voice, his touch, his caring for me and protecting me. How do I do that, Lord?

I agree whole heartedly and could say similar things of my wife of the last 25 years. She took my name, and bore me children, and I have done my best to present her spotless before God and men.

I also am saddened by your loss. Stay in One Peace.

[ChristianCoffee]

You know, I've had dogs and I really, really committed to them...to love them and care for them and honor them till death parted us. And I did too.

Now, to the subject and I'm sure this is not the 'subject' here, but I've got to say it...

55 years ago last month, my husband MARRIED me. He loved me enough that he did not choose to simply move in with me and use me as a harlot, a bed partner. He loved me enough that he gave me his name to wear for the rest of my life. I bore him 4 children, and they too wear his name! Thank God for a man that cares enough to give his woman his name for the rest of her life, and also that his children can also wear that name!

I am honored and proud that he did that for us.

We never had to be ashamed to take people into our home when they had no home to go to, or to care for them and feed them when they needed a bed to sleep in or food to eat for a time.

My husband took his last breath Sunday, with me by his side, holding his hand after a battle with cancer... Even now, I will receive Social Security benefits from him because he cared enough for me to give me his name legally.

He was a good man, a God fearing man. He chose to honor me by asking me to become his wife. Legally! By doing that, he kept my name honorable all these years, because I wear HIS name. No one ever had to look at me as a harlot. No, I was his WIFE. And our children can never be called bastards, because they have his name also!

If a man REALLY loves a woman, why cause her to be the object of demeaning remarks or thought? Is it that they can't afford the small cost of a legal LICENSE? I'm just sincerely wondering. Friends, a PRETEND marriage can never be a real marriage. The Bible says,
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Thank God for Godly men, who expect to give respect to the woman they choose to bed down with for the rest of their life! Thank you Lord for the good man you gave me.

Just help me to stop hurting so bad since he's gone, Lord. Thank you, that he honored me enough to legally marry me those many years ago. Now all I ask is to show me, Lord, how to go on living without him in my life. Without his voice, his touch, his caring for me and protecting me. How do I do that, Lord?

The same should be said of Godly wives, Diggen. He was blessed to have 55 years of marriage with YOU. Just as I have been blessed to have had (so far) 22 years with my wife. When God places a women in your wife, someone who is to be our helpmeet, our partner, the "flesh of my flesh", there is nothing more awesome then that. No matter what people may say, living together is not a marriage. Being with the same sex is NOT a marriage. My daughter, who gets married in October, is NOT married to her bethrothed. They understand how I feel about them "having time alone", though they are both over 21.

I feel for you, my sister. And I look forward to the time when you can introduce me to the fine man God gave you for so short a period of "time". And I will continue to pray for you and your family.

In Him,

CC

Romans 8:16

[Vanderhoven7]

Good ol' Wikipedia

My question is living together without a state or church sanctioned marriage a sin? Do you have Biblical proof? I have been married for 25 years, I love my wife, and NEVER want to live with anyone else.

State sanctioning is not the issue. Partners often decide to live together to "get more committed" which really means, so they don't have to get committed.

First question: Is your daughter a Christian?
Second question: Is her partner a Christian?
If so...Is there any evidence that one or both want to do God's will? (e.g. Is she or he going to church?)

[RSouthward]

You know, I've had dogs and I really, really committed to them...to love them and care for them and honor them till death parted us. And I did too.

Now, to the subject and I'm sure this is not the 'subject' here, but I've got to say it...

55 years ago last month, my husband MARRIED me. He loved me enough that he did not choose to simply move in with me and use me as a harlot, a bed partner. He loved me enough that he gave me his name to wear for the rest of my life. I bore him 4 children, and they too wear his name! Thank God for a man that cares enough to give his woman his name for the rest of her life, and also that his children can also wear that name!

I am honored and proud that he did that for us.

We never had to be ashamed to take people into our home when they had no home to go to, or to care for them and feed them when they needed a bed to sleep in or food to eat for a time.

My husband took his last breath Sunday, with me by his side, holding his hand after a battle with cancer... Even now, I will receive Social Security benefits from him because he cared enough for me to give me his name legally.

He was a good man, a God fearing man. He chose to honor me by asking me to become his wife. Legally! By doing that, he kept my name honorable all these years, because I wear HIS name. No one ever had to look at me as a harlot. No, I was his WIFE. And our children can never be called bastards, because they have his name also!

If a man REALLY loves a woman, why cause her to be the object of demeaning remarks or thought? Is it that they can't afford the small cost of a legal LICENSE? I'm just sincerely wondering. Friends, a PRETEND marriage can never be a real marriage. The Bible says,
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Thank God for Godly men, who expect to give respect to the woman they choose to bed down with for the rest of their life! Thank you Lord for the good man you gave me.

Just help me to stop hurting so bad since he's gone, Lord. Thank you, that he honored me enough to legally marry me those many years ago. Now all I ask is to show me, Lord, how to go on living without him in my life. Without his voice, his touch, his caring for me and protecting me. How do I do that, Lord?

What an amazing testimony to others. I am a single woman seeking God and waiting for a man of God like your late husband. I am encouraged by you and others that have posted...that there are others seeking God first and honoring their wives. I know how hard marriage can be by the many that I have seen lived right in front of me, and I pray that God will give me the grace, understanding and UNCONDITIONAL love of Christ to be a Godly and honoring wife to my future husband and that he will be the same to me.

Praying for you sister. May the angels surround you and minister to your daily, hourly, minutely needs...much love.