Possession

[awestruckchild]

I am thoroughly convinced I have met someone who has a demon. It sounds crazy even to my ears. I have stayed away from this couple for the past few days because she tortures the man worse when I am around. Does anyone have any experience with this to tell me what I should do? Sorry, I know how crazy it sounds, but at the same time, my entire family is being attacked. I am fearful for what they are going through but the reason I have stayed away is NOT fear, but concern for this man, that he not be tortured worse. I'm a little lost as to what to do....

[Indueseason]

A demon entered my husband, when he decided to turn his back on God. It was almost instant. I could see it in my husbands eyes. I couldn't explain it if I tried, but I know he was demon possessed. Scripture tells us that if a Spirit leaves a body, it goes around seeking somewhere to go. When it comes back and realises that his old place is cleaned out,he goes and invites seven others, worse that himself, and they all enter the person. I paraphrased. but I can testify to the truth of that scripture!

Sadly I can't tell you how to deal with this, I was serious ill with cancer at the time, and the demons made my life unbearable, for a while.The only option open to me was to flee from it , which God,in His mercy provided.

On a more positive note,my mother's dead now, but she was heavily involved in witchcraft at one point, and she too had demons. When she came to my house, she would always demand that I removed the bibles from the house! She was very serious about it,so I did what she asked. However,one day I was led to leave a pocket NT under a cushion, when she came to visit. She took one step into the living room, and knew it was there! Told me to remove it before she went in!!( This completely convinced me of that power of the word!)

This seemed to open the door( spiritually) to the truth of Jesus Christ, and a few weeks later( after a long Spiritual battle) she surrendered her life to Jesus.

Prayer is the greatest weapon you have. The word of God is your sword. Get into the Spirit and pray against this demon!

blessings to you

[awestruckchild]

Hi IDS,
You say you noticed something in his eyes. Can you tell me if you ever noticed a....flash or...flicker of some odd light very briefly but then gone, in either of his eyes?

Also, did you notice him give...sneaky and almost self-satisfied little smiles at times when a smile was completely inappropriate?

Also, do you recall getting very awful and nasty headaches around him? By that I mean, like, almost the second he walked in the room?

I cannot believe the things I am saying lately with complete assurance. I had no idea or thought that I would ever experience some of the things I am experiencing lately. If I read my current posts a few months ago I would have thought: this person has gotten quite sideways! The only thing keeping me from committing myself somewhere is His voice. I darn well know it.

Thank you for talking with me about this.

[Indueseason]

Yes we had crazy cluster headache, but we put them down to stress. His eyes looked different(might have had a flash, but there was color in his eyes )His eyes are almost grey, yet they would become a dark amber/yellow color!. That's how we knew his violence was building up. Sometimes the demon would manifest it'self , and I could see the demon. Yes I know about the smirks and mocking's, they so enjoy taunting folks with!

blessings to you

[awestruckchild]

Well, this is helpful. It seems to show that at least there are specific things to look for if this ever happens around me in the future too. And of course the Holy Spirit spoke that this is truth you have stated.

Did you ever command the demon to come out of him in Jesus' name as Paul did?
I am almost completely over my fear of being thought insane by people who just can't handle the things I am experiencing, and I will do it, no matter how silly others may think I look and sound. In fact, when I had the thought the other day of doing just that, the Holy Spirit moved very strongly in me.

I had the chance earlier today when the two of them showed up on my doorstep and am ashamed to say, I did not do it. My hesitance came from feeling I was not holy enough and the fear that the answer would be: Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you? I feel one would have to be somehow much holier than I am to do it. Maybe my real fear, the fear that stopped me, was thinking of the verse: this kind only comes out by prayer and fasting...so maybe I am still not quite over my fear of looking foolish.
There is also some willful disobedience here because of fear, seeing as how He spoke when I had that thought the other day. If there is one thing I know, it is to follow His voice and go in the direction it tells me to go. And I didn't, so I need to go get things right with Him here.
I did, however, do something I have never done before. I denied her entrance into the house. I would be a fool to think that trying to make peace with a demon in order to stop this man from being tortured would work.
If you are inclined to pray, would you pray that I listen and obey without fear?
This is a pretty serious failure on my part to trust and obey and follow His voice.
Thank you for your help.
I have just kind of ignored portions of the bible that deal with things I have not experienced. They have always seemed too fantastical. But this involves my whole family, so there are others here to consider but my own hide. We ALL keep being dragged into this insanity. Everyone is completely exhausted and at a loss for exactly how it happens that we all keep getting dragged into this mess.
So all I can think to do is repent of my disobedience, beg His mercy for my weakness, and plead that He strengthen me and replace my weakness with His strength.

[awestruckchild]

Hobotone,
Thank you again. I will wait for you to reply.
Here is the thing that happened about two years ago with this woman.
Her mother was dying in the hospital. She would come home from the hospital and tell me that. her mother was very restless and inconsolable, yanking out her breathing tube and snapping at the nurses and doctors and fighting when they kept trying to replace the tube.
The thought never even entered my mind to visit this woman in the hospital because I had only ever met her three times over the years. I was very sad because remarks she had made the few times I briefly met her had convinced me she did not know God, but I was certain that an almost complete stranger traipsing through someones death room was not good.
One day, I went to clean this womans house while she was at the hospital. In the middle of scrubbing down a shower stall, I had the sudden thought, and I asked God - Is she so restless because she does not know where she is going? He answered me so strongly that I immediately dropped what I was doing and went to the hospital to find her. The family was there in the hallway, fighting over something. It was awful. Her door was open and there is no way she did not hear the ugliness going on. I asked the family if I could go in and talk to her. The one daughter and her husband looked at me with such....contempt, that I cannot even describe how sick it felt. But the other daughter, told me of course I could go in.
I entered her room and she was sleeping, so I sat in the chair beside her bed to wait, but she immediately opened her eyes. I told her I had come to talk to her about some things that God wanted her to know if she didn't mind, and she said that would be just fine.

I asked her if she was restless, and she said, oh yes, I am!
I told her she could ask God for help that very instant to give her some peace.
She said, okay. Then she said, I've always tried to be a good person.
I told her, no, Elsie, only God is good. We are not good. But, that doesn't matter because He is good and gave us His Son to lead us back to Him.
She seemed very relieved, and said okay again,
Then she seemed to sleep for a minute and then said, I just can't stop thinking I need to get up and do something.
I said, no she didn't. All she had to do was let God handle everything, and that if she would let Him, He would handle EVERYTHING and she could just rest.
She said that sounded so good to her.
So I told her, if it sounds good, just do it. Tell Him you are tired and restless and you need His peace. Tell Him you are sorry for having ignored Him.
She said she was going to do it right now.
I asked her if she wanted me to come back later and tell her some things that God had told us. All this time, I had been leaning over her because her voice was so weak I could barely hear her. But when I asked if she would like me to come back to tell her these things, her eyes got very big and she said: OH! Yes, please, would you do that?!
I said I would be back the following day, but reminded her she could go to Him this moment and ask Him for His peace and just let Him handle everything.

The following day, I came back with some verses I had written down. When I got there, the daughter and a freind of hers were in the room. They were talking and laughing and I said hello, then said I had brought some things to read to Elsie. I went across the room to her bed and sat down. I asked if she remembered what we had talked about the day before, and she said yes, but that there were so many things she had to do and she just didn't know if she could get them done. Her voice was even weaker than the day before and she was very hard to hear. The conversation was still going on in her room and I was a bit annoyed, trying to hear her.
I told her she did not have to worry about those things if she would just let God handle them and trust Him to do so.
I asked if she wanted to hear those things God had said and she answered quite loudly and enthusiastically again, that yes, she would!
So I began to read the verses. She was listening so hard! The two women stopped talking, and I read her all of the verses. When I was done, I said: doesn't that all sound so good Elsie?! She said: yes!
So I said, and all you have to do is just GO to Him.
Suddenly, the womans friend, from across the room behind me began...well, it was so loud that it can only be said that she was literally screaming. It was just a shreik! Over and over she began screaming: Just go to Him Elsie! Just go to Him!
This went on for what seemed forever, and Elsies lips were moving and I was greatly annoyed at not being able to hear what she might be asking. A thought flashed through my head of Paul and the woman following behind screaming that everyone should listen to Paul because he was from God. I turned around to tell her to leave the room immediately, when suddenly she stopped yelling before I had to say anything.
I turned back to Elsie and she began moaning that she was so thirsty. Over and over, she kept saying it, with her eyes closed.
This womans friend jumped up and started loudly...screaming again: I'll get you some water Elsie! I'll get you some water!!
Both women came to the bed with the water, and I told them she was not thirsty for that water and to please stop, but they insisted on sitting her up in bed to give her a drink, which she (quite strongly for a dying woman) began trying to refuse. It was so awful. I was nauseous. But they saw that she in fact did not want the water and sat back down.
Elsie closed her eyes again, said she was so thirsty, then became silent and a few moments later began whispering over and over again:peace...peace...peace. The sound of the word on her lips and the look on her face was so hushed and peaceful, that I just knew she had gone to Him.
I got up to leave and this womans friend began talking loudly about some place I just had to go to them with. I just shook my head, shushed her, and left the room.
They followed me and I had to hear all about this church retreat type thing - whatever they had been discussing going to when I first entered the room.
I listened politely, said it sounded wonderful and I would let them know, then told the woman that her mother was very, very safe right now, and left.

Later, I wrote down what had happened and determined that I would tell this woman the next time I saw her that something was wrong with her friend. I kept having the thought that there was something so wrong there, spiritually. I am ashamed to say that I never told her. This was her best friend from childhood and...I just couldn't seem to do it, even though I worried about it and prayed.

I am nearly convinced that my failure to warn ( and it was fear and cowardice that kept me from it. About that, there can be no mistake) is the reason this woman is now in such an awful state. No. I am not nearly convinced. I am completely convinced. My cowardice at being possibly yelled at and thought crazy, is what has allowed this to happen. I failed to warn her when I knew I should and was supposed to, and have brought this terrible situation to my whole family.
Then, when they showed up on my doorstep the other day, I did not follow my leading. I am disgusted with myself. How many chances does He need to give me to listen and follow and I will just be a fearful coward? I'm going to take a shower now and wait for what you have to say Hobotone.

[awestruckchild]

It has been almost 5 months since I first posted about this.
I haven't been called back to work in this neighborhood very much until the last few days.
This has spread, no matter how crazy it sounds, it has spread.
It began with the woman in the hospital and it spread to her freind. Then it spread to THAT womans son.
Now, I am staying for a few nights in a house 2 doors down from the woman, and even ANIMALS are acting odd.
I can't fix this.
Also, the woman across the street has now become a mormon.
I was attacked in a strange manner yesterday.
I'm actually scared for the entire neighborhood now.
I can't just start walking into churches and.....oh, I just can't!
does anyone here know of anyone in Maryland I can talk to?
I can't fix this. I need help. And I don't need suppositions or "well, they say that..."
I need someone who darn well knows about this.
No matter what I thought and felt 5 months ago, I can't do this - I can't fix it or do this.
And it is just not going to register with most people because it is too...subtle, or sneaky, or something.
It isn't subtle to me - I can feel it quite loudly, but no one else who lives here seems concerned in any way. Everything seems normal to them I think.

[Dani H]

I believe what you are describing is real.

I would encourage you to ask Jesus to handle the demonic, and also ask for His grace for you to handle the people. We're always fighting the battle on two fronts: spiritual and people. None of these people are of any threat to you because you belong to Jesus. And whatever is controlling them, you turn that part of the battle over and defer final authority to the Lord and ask Him to step in and battle those things. Then you pray for the people involved and ask God to grant them repentance, grant that their eyes become opened, and ask God to grant them grace to be convicted of their sin and seek salvation in the Lord.

I know exactly what you're talking about and that's is what I do, what I've done for years, what I'll continue to do until the day He calls me on home.

In the end, where people are concerned, it's ultimately up to them to decide for themselves whether or not to seek God. But, you can pray, you can seek Him, you can intercede, you can throw your hat in the ring on behalf of their souls. You can share the Gospel with them and love them. As to the spiritual things present there ... you ask the Lord to take up that battle and only do something directly if He specifically tells you to. It may be that you're not equipped, and if not, that's fine. Nothing stopping you from interceding for the people involved, though, which is something you're definitely equipped for.

God wouldn't be thumping your nose in this if He didn't want you to act. So get on your knees, and act.

[moonglow]

It has been almost 5 months since I first posted about this.
I haven't been called back to work in this neighborhood very much until the last few days.
This has spread, no matter how crazy it sounds, it has spread.
It began with the woman in the hospital and it spread to her freind. Then it spread to THAT womans son.
Now, I am staying for a few nights in a house 2 doors down from the woman, and even ANIMALS are acting odd.
I can't fix this.
Also, the woman across the street has now become a mormon.
I was attacked in a strange manner yesterday.
I'm actually scared for the entire neighborhood now.
I can't just start walking into churches and.....oh, I just can't!
does anyone here know of anyone in Maryland I can talk to?
I can't fix this. I need help. And I don't need suppositions or "well, they say that..."
I need someone who darn well knows about this.
No matter what I thought and felt 5 months ago, I can't do this - I can't fix it or do this.
And it is just not going to register with most people because it is too...subtle, or sneaky, or something.
It isn't subtle to me - I can feel it quite loudly, but no one else who lives here seems concerned in any way. Everything seems normal to them I think.

Hi awestruckchild..I just read through this thread yesterday. Sounds pretty creepy for sure. I have been thinking and praying on this also. My concern in trying to cast out an evil spirit in anyone, is unless they accept Christ into their life, they are 'empty' and as you pointed out, more evil spirits can come in.

Your first post I am afraid I didn't really understand:

awestruckchild

Possession
I am thoroughly convinced I have met someone who has a demon. It sounds crazy even to my ears. I have stayed away from this couple for the past few days because she tortures the man worse when I am around. Does anyone have any experience with this to tell me what I should do? Sorry, I know how crazy it sounds, but at the same time, my entire family is being attacked. I am fearful for what they are going through but the reason I have stayed away is NOT fear, but concern for this man, that he not be tortured worse. I'm a little lost as to what to do....

Who is 'she' and how is she torturing this man? At first I really thought you were talking about some woman..maybe his wife, physically hurting him. Also you never explained how this is affecting your whole family...

I also don't know what you meant about this:

I can't just start walking into churches and.....oh, I just can't!

I image you are praying for this whole neighborhood...I will be in prayer for you also. Prayer is a powerful thing! Pray the Lord puts a hedge of protection around the whole area. http://www.gotquestions.org/hedge-of-protection.html

I wish I could help more but I just don't enough.

God bless

[Hannah]

I am not at all saying that there can't be demons involved, but a more likely explanation would be drugs or something similar, or a medical imbalance caused by internal or external factors. Have you considered this?

I have seen people behave in a way that could easily be classified as demon possessed but were in fact explained through a brain tumor, in one persons case, and a abuse of steroids and drugs in the other persons case. They were behaving uncharacteristically, cruelly and the eyes looked funny. They were not themselves.

If you consider both the demon possession and the possible natural explanations you double your chance of solving this.

If it is demons, then you should be able to control it by calling to Jesus.

Why don't you find the most bible believing church in the area and speak to the Pastor there?
If he tells you to drop it, then drop it. If he thinks you are right and suggests an action plan, then you have a partner.

Consider also, that this may not be something that God wants you to get involved with.