Wonders never cease

[keck553]

Speaking as an ignorant English Gal, what is it that you guys hate so much about Obama? Expect I'll have a lot of reading to do

Hate is a pretty strong word. More like disgust and disappointment. Disgust that our President is ill equipped intellectually to perform his duties and possesses absolutely zero leadership skills. Disappointed that he compensates for his shortcomings by dehumanizing several qroups of American citizens, and engaging in religious warfare, class warfare and racism. This is not the mark of a leader, it is the character of a despot.

[keck553]

My favorite, of whom I had the honor of voting for, was Ronald Reagan.

Amen to that. Me too

[Liquid Tension]

My favorite, of whom I had the honor of voting for, was Ronald Reagan.

Bingo!! (although I couldn't vote for him because I was too young)

[keck553]

He also campaigned that he would have the most transparent administration ever, that we should learn personal responsibility, and that we should live within our means. Apparently, he doesn't include himself in we, the people. That's ok...I don't include him, either.

W

I guess its Bush's fault Eric Holder has amnesia?

[Vhayes]

That's a good un' for starters, does he have any good points in your view?

He is a dedicated family man. He appears to love his wife and children a whole lot. To me, that's worth a bunch and it tells a lot about the character of a person.

My personal opinion is that he spends too much or WOULD spend too much if given free rein. There are things he is trying to do that will help the general public, especially the next generation. Education MUST start having a place of precedence in this country. Health care in this country is so expensive many people simply cannot afford to go to the doctor, let alone be told they needs tests or treatments. I don't think the travesty that was passed and made law is a good fix but maybe we are headed in a direction where people wil have a dialogue instead of a scare fest.

My "favorite"? I really would have to say Ronald Reagan - but NOT for the reasons most would/will cite him. When Reagan was elected, this country didn't like itself very much. We had fallen into a state of complete dejection with no hope in our future. Reagan pulled us out of that - he was way, way jingoistic in his approach to most things but that was exactly what was needed at the time - a pat on the back, a "you can do it" encouragement. The man certainly provided that. His economic theories have been proven to be false - there was no "trickle down" - the money stayed in the pockets it started in.

I hope that makes a bit of sense.

[Liquid Tension]

His economic theories have been proven to be false - there was no "trickle down" - the money stayed in the pockets it started in.

While V makes a good point on Reagan's economic policy(ies), no one can deny that the nations economy was much better when he left than when he assumed the Presidency.

[Vhayes]

Oh - and just for good measure - Richard Nixon was probably the best statesman we've had in the past 70 years...

[student of the Lamb]

The one issue that I had no time to bring up earlier was the main reason that he should not be re-elected. That is the economy which is not any better than when he started. He, himself, said that if he did not fix things that he should be replaced. Nothing has been done to fix the problems that caused the economic collapse of 2007-08. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are still economic black holes and their leadership continues to try to get bonuses for failed management. The Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury have combined together to create Quantitative Easement I and II. This was done for the sole reason to stabilize NOT FIX the problems with the stock market that added to the economic collapse. In the process they lowered interest rates to their lowest points ever. In order to do this they had to rob Peter to pay Paul. The Treasury on each occasion of QE I and QE II printed and released into the economy approximately 625 billion dollars, around 1.2 trillion dollars overall. There are plans ongoing to do this again even after it was stated that neither of these action had much of any affect. In truth, however, it did have very negative affects as the amount of currency being released has devalued the dollar and caused hyper-inflation and very possibly could cause economic collapse in the near future just as some of the ratings agencies have predicted. If steps are not taken and it does not seem that this administration will do that this country is as much on the verge of collapse as Spain, France Italy or Greece. Also be advised that the news of the day if you look for the truth and not the main stream (lame stream) media you will find that proof has been found of Obama's membership in the radical socialist "New Party."

Obama's use of the Executive order and his promise to make greater use of it if re-elected is doing nothing but centralizing his control of power in the presidency and weakening the power of the Judicial and legislative branches. He has done many things to diminish the strength of the Constitution which he swore to uphold and defend. In essence he had been doing everything and anything he can as a former constitutional lawyer to destroy the Constitution. He is on record as having said that he does not like the Constitution and feel it limits his power. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY the forefathers wrote it as they did. It is not about him. It is for the people, of the people and by the people.

In response to the questions asked above, one needs to understand that at least others even though they were not great leaders and some were big government oriented at least they were pro America. Obama has shown himself in his words and his actions not to be pro America.

One needs to be well informed to understand that allowing people who might not have the best interest of our nation into sensitive areas and position should not be allowed. They should at least be "vetted" first. Obama has filled many positions with people with well known interests in ideologies that would rather bring down this nation. Van Jones was the communist "green Jobs" czar until he was exposed. He has had several people quote Mao Tse Tung to the point of saying that the way to control people is at the barrel of a gun.

One thing that continues to irritate true Americans, people who have seen their relatives come to this country, is that if you live in America you should consider yourself an American, not an Irish American or a Chinese American. If you are a citizen of America, you are an American. That is how this nation has remained united for 200 years. Today everything is divisive and Obama just continues to add to that fallout.

As for the Muslims, one need only look to the truth about how they are in Jihad mode throughout the world, including Great Britain. The larger their numbers get in a country, the greater the movement towards takeover. The movement for Sharia law in this country has already begun. The eventual goal of Islam is to conquer the world and eliminate all infidels.

The biggest problem in this country today is that this push for political correctness is weakening the strength of this nation and its people to stand up for itself. This nation needs to make a 180 degree turn and move quickly away from EVERYTHING that Obama has done.

[Jeanne D]

Ronald Reagan was definately my favorite President.

Just to mention, my cousin worked with him a few times and said he was a very genuine person.

Jeanne

[Bandit]

Speaking as an ignorant English Gal, what is it that you guys hate so much about Obama? Expect I'll have a lot of reading to do

I don't "hate" Obama, but I'm not happy that he is the president. He's a big-government, tax and spend liberal who's running up the deficit at a frightening rate. And his foreign policy is incoherent and confusing; he treats allies poorly and enemies well.

I would say that I do hate the fact that he is president. It is a very bad thing when the candidate who gets the most votes is the one who promises the most "free" stuff. (Yea, vote me into office, and I'll give you all this free stuff. Your life will be easier, I promise you! You have the right to all this stuff, and as president I promise that I'll give it to you!) You know, only the gullible would fall for such an empty claim - and yet that is what most people in the US did - they voted for the person who promised the most "free" stuff. Let me tell you, people, "free" stuff does not come without a price. You have sold your liberty for a morsel of stale, socialist bread, and you are too color-blind to see it.

[NewInHim]

That's a good un' for starters, does he have any good points in your view?

I'll start with the good. I agree with V, that he seems to be a family man. I enjoy pictures of him with his family. They seem to love each other, and he seems like a good dad. I like that about him, and I wish his family the best. He likes basketball. My husband loves basketball, so they have something in common and that is nice. When I see pictures of him dressed down and just relaxing, hanging out with friends, or family, he looks like a nice guy. His daughters seem very sweet. I'd love to meet them. I am pretty sure my daughter would like them. His wife seems to have a lot of poise. She also puts up with a lot of nastiness from certain people who are not Obama fans. I am not a fan, but I don't think we should be personally attacking him, or his family. We may not agree with them, but it doesn't need to get ugly like it has. While I do not agree with all the ways that Mrs. Obama is trying to implement her push for healthier eating and exercise habits in this country, I do agree with her that it is a problem. We just don't agree on the solutions. I feel pity for him because the job has obviously aged him. His face has lines and is careworn and his hair is turning grey. This has been a pretty rapid change, so you can physically see the stress of the past 5 years on him. I know he sought the job, but still. Anyone who seeks that amount of responsibility and then carries it out deserves some respect. I would not want to do it. He says he is a fellow believer. I can't judge his heart, only God can. I hope that he is. If he is not, I hope that he will be.

That's about all I got off the top of my head.

Now for the stuff that deeply concerns me:

He considers himself "pro-choice" and supports organizations like Planned Parenthood. He voted against the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which would give the legal status of person-hood and protection to a baby born alive after a failed attempt at an abortion. One of his campaign promises before elected last time was that the first thing he would do as president would be to sign FOCA which would make abortion a "right" like speech and take away a lot of the current restrictions to abortion that are currently in the laws of our states. He also co-sponsored the 2007 Senate version of the bill. Of his own daughters, he once said : "I don't want them punished with a baby." when discussing future "mistakes" they might make. This is out-of-step with how God views children and with how He views murder. He claims that the pro-life movement is anti-woman, when in fact it is very pro-woman. Abortion kills a disproportionate number of females, and harms the women who have them. He doesn't see that. He is wrong.

He does not attend church. I know there are many believers who do the same, and I think they are making a big mistake.

He seems to have contempt for Christians on the right. There are several quotes that come to mind.

I have found it very difficult to take him at this word. For instance in 2009, he said that signing FOCA was "not highest legislative priority." (See above. in 2008, he made a campaign promise to sign it first thing!) This is just one of so many examples. His speeches are very difficult for me to listen to. To me, they are full of catch phrases and slick speech. Politician-speak. I hate that. I don't want a politician in office. I want a real guy. Maybe I am naive and totally unrealistic. So be it.

Not only are his speeches hard for me to listen to because of what I hear as double talk, but also because of his tone and content. I often find myself getting defensive when I hear him. He makes me feel like a small child being scolded. I find him to be condescending. Also, though I try to listen to him speaking as little as possible, when I do catch him, I almost always hear him passing blame and scolding.

He seems to spend like money is going out of style. The indebtedness of this country is WRONG. From my point-of-view he has done very little to fix the problem and a whole lot to make it worse.

He seems to use class warfare to further his political goals.

He seems to use race warfare to further his political goals.

He seems to use religious warfare to further his political goals.

He allies himself with many people/organizations that I have major issues with.

We probably agree on less than 30% of the issues.

He doesn't seem to me to be a loyal ally to Israel, which is important to me.

He's not a conservative.

Etc.

[Liquid Tension]

Excellent post highlighting your pros and cons.

I don't want a politician in office.

Unfortunately, we will always have "politicians" in office. In order to get in to office (especially President), one needs to talk a lot of Bravo Sierra. Some just talk it 24/7.

I find him to be condescending.

Bingo!

I almost always hear him passing blame and scolding.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[keck553]

Since Obama calls himself a Christian, i have to assume the statement "I don't want to punish my daughter with a baby" is contrary to Biblical principles and God's command for believers to raise their children in the way.

[Bandit]

Since Obama calls himself a Christian...

Not to sound negative, but can't everyone see that Obama is a completely godless man?

[Vhayes]

Not to sound negative, but can't everyone see that Obama is a completely godless man?

No. Misguided in many areas. But then, so am I. Believe it or not, so are you.