Article: Same sex marriage

[Sojourner55]

Hello Eyelog,

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. I agree with everything you said, and believe that we as American citizens have the right to voice our opinions, both publicly, and to our elected representatives, to the extent that our votes are able to affect change. And certainly, as Christians, we are to keep our light high on a hill where all can see it. We are witnesses to the truth of the approach of God's kingdom upon the earth, which will crush Satan's power and bring him and his minions under the wrath and judgment of our God and His Christ. Those who belong to God will recognize the truth, and those who do not will reject it and our testimony. I will continue to shine the light until either the Lord returns, or I else I depart this earthly life to sleep in Jesus.

I will not however, continue to squander my time engaged in the same inane, fruitless debates with argumentative people who have their minds made up that we are unfairly picking on homosexuals every time the juggernaut of the gay agenda is addressed. There are literally dozens of threads on this forum, with the same people making the same endless arguments over and over. As I said earlier, we are not called to clean up the pond, but to fish in it. This present world system is Satan's kingdom, but we are mandated and empowered only to draw individuals out of it into God's kingdom. I will endeavor, to the best of my abilities, to lead those so willing into the marvelous light of Jesus--and leave the rest to the Lord. God bless.

[esper88]

Well I'm glad we could put this debate to rest and not have the same endless arguments.

The fact is, homosexuality is sin. It says it in the scriptures clear as day.

It also says that Christ is our divine savior, which is the truest fact of all. But not everyone believes that. And the fact is, they're all wrong. It's a shame that these other people in the world can't see the light of Christ--The scriptures give us the word of God, plain and simple. God hands us everything on a silver platter, and yet people reject the word.

Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, you name it. All of these people have rejected the scriptures and the light of Christ, and they will burn mercilessly in eternal hellfire for following their false edicts. Add gays to to the long list of unbelievers.

But at least we know that we're right. And we will prevail in the end, over these people who cling to their false testimonies of God. They can't see past their ignorance to the truth that is Christ. They're too caught up in all the lies to realize that the truth has been in front of us this whole time. They were just too caught up in their own little false realities to realize that our world of Christ is the true path.

[ran131uise]

Excellent thinking. I do agree with your view. I find it interesting that 1960 prayer had been removed from the classroom shortly after the sexual revolution ensued. We need to maintain a solid Christian perspective for ever.

[chad]

This is a really well written article. For me, when people say "gay marriage", it sets off so many alarm bells in my head, I just can't ignore it. My inital thoughts are "seriously gay marriage, you have got to be kidding."

As a christian and believer in the bible, gay marriage is double defilement of both natural relations and the sanctity of marriage. Going back to Genesis are the two basic foundations of who we are and how we are created :- that is Gods intention of natural relations (male and female) and the sanctity of marriage (Between a male and female).

However, I can understand those in the world, who reject christianity having to problem with gay marriage. Most are not interested in God in their lives, but just living life as they see fit. For them I guess it is a matter of human rights, the right to reject God and the right to live whatever lifestyle they choose to without being discriminated against in terms of the law of the land. Unfortunately for them, they do not realize thier decisions have consequences, both in this life and unto eternity.

On one side, I feel saddened for them and do not agree with any physical harming of them, such as stoning of the woman caught in Adultery, as thier own actions will in the end condemn themselves. Yet I think as Christians, we should still have the right to take a stand against the sin in thier life. That is love show compassion and forgiveness towards the sinner, yet hate the sin.

It is easy to be anti-gay, but when those who live that life-style are your friends or family, it does take on a different perspective. We can have compassion and forgiveness for them, while still standing against the life-style and sin in thier life.

[Sojourner55]

Thank you, chad. Yes, gay marriage, like abortion, will remain a hot button issue with Christians. We are in the world, but not of the world, and must strike a balance. We must remain a light of testimony, yet also realize we cannot change the current world system. Nor are we called to do so. It's a hard thing to accept that civil rights in America must remain separate and distinct from God and godliness--especially given the deep, abiding faith in God embraced by most of the founders, who actually designed the system in the first place. It is highly improbable that the sanctioning of homosexual marriage would have ever even occurred to them, and it is highly unlikely they would have approved of it. That however, is a moot point today.

Ultimately, this world system belongs to Satan, his minions, and those who wallow in ungodliness. Our national moral compass is so broken today that American society will almost certainly never find its way back to God. Sin is like a fatal spiritual epidemic, and the only inoculation is the blood of Jesus, and those who reject it, do so to at their own peril. All we can do is keep shining the light on the strait and narrow path for those who choose to follow it. It's tragic that so many are oblivious to the foolishness and eternal consequences of choosing the wrong path, but it's a choice we all must make for ourselves.

[justsayin']

I agree wholeheartedly. So sad to see the world headed this way. Legislation in our country comes with the added concern that it will be included in the sex education classes of public schools ... i.e. teaching our kids that same sex marriages are o.k and normal etc.

[Proverbs 3:5-7]

I agree. Someone once said that the seeds of apostasy is compromise--and that guy is compromising. When we start conforming the standards of the world, we've abandoned the standards of God. What's next, Chrislam?

"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will."
(Rom 12:2)

to this!

[Proverbs 3:5-7]

This is a really well written article. For me, when people say "gay marriage", it sets off so many alarm bells in my head, I just can't ignore it. My inital thoughts are "seriously gay marriage, you have got to be kidding."

As a christian and believer in the bible, gay marriage is double defilement of both natural relations and the sanctity of marriage. Going back to Genesis are the two basic foundations of who we are and how we are created :- that is Gods intention of natural relations (male and female) and the sanctity of marriage (Between a male and female).

However, I can understand those in the world, who reject christianity having to problem with gay marriage. Most are not interested in God in their lives, but just living life as they see fit. For them I guess it is a matter of human rights, the right to reject God and the right to live whatever lifestyle they choose to without being discriminated against in terms of the law of the land. Unfortunately for them, they do not realize thier decisions have consequences, both in this life and unto eternity.

On one side, I feel saddened for them and do not agree with any physical harming of them, such as stoning of the woman caught in Adultery, as thier own actions will in the end condemn themselves. Yet I think as Christians, we should still have the right to take a stand against the sin in thier life. That is love show compassion and forgiveness towards the sinner, yet hate the sin.

It is easy to be anti-gay, but when those who live that life-style are your friends or family, it does take on a different perspective. We can have compassion and forgiveness for them, while still standing against the life-style and sin in thier life.

I can definitely relate to & agree with several of the points in your post

[shamer543]

You open up different doors with different sins. I thought of this some time ago.... Why can you look some men and tell that they are Homosexuals?

[Proverbs 3:5-7]

You open up different doors with different sins. I thought of this some time ago.... Why can you look some men and tell that they are Homosexuals?

I can relate to your opening point... as this particular sin seems to have opened the door to evermore defiant & aggressive sinful attitudes... except for our struggle has been with a young female family member...

even though she'd always known the Biblical forewarnings against indulging such sexually immoral carnal impulses (including the heterosexual sins of fornication & adultery)...
she still "came out" as gay about 2 years ago; with a very ardent, activist lesbian partner... both of them were making demands on the family to accept, approve & endorse "who she is"... or else we'd be "intolerant bigots"... "especially since several (straight) family members had 'gotten away with' adultery & fornication" (was their foundation for excuse)... & nevermind about those who openly admitted how they came to repentance for those sins...

although I've repeatedly tried to advocate for peace & allowing others their right to their own beliefs... no matter how many times I've pleaded; please? can we just agree to disagree? or live & let live?... they both seem to have developed an increasingly reprobate mind against God, His Word & His Believers...
sadly their attitudes are eerily similar to those pagan homosexuals in Romans 1...

29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,
30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;

[chad]

Arrrrgghhh!!! They just legalized gay marriage in the country I live in. Never before has the light of the gospel become so apparent to me. Christians and Christian churches voiced their opposition, even presenting scripture and all the biblical reasons as why Gay Marriage should not be legalized.

Unfortunately, this fell on deaf ears on the majority of those elected into power. Some opposed, but it was largely a majority vote that has now allowed gay marriage to become legal in our country.

Over 2,000 years ago, Paul wrote to the Romans. 2,000 years later, I am amazed at the wisdom and truth of God written by the Apostle Paul in Romans 1:18-32. The fallen world has rejected God and Gods truth, some have rejected natural relationships between a man and a woman and now we have the re-definition of marriage and the acceptance of homosexual marriage as natural and equal?

Never before in human history, can I recall there being an acceptance of marriage between a man and a man and a woman and a woman. I can only think of the coming judgement of God that will fall on the nations that have allowed this to happen and the couples who proceed with same sex marriage.

Although the homosexual community think they have won, in my opinion they really have not. I would think that the re-definition of marriage and the defiling of Gods institution of marriage can only bring judgement, the worst judgement being the rejection of God and salvation in their lives. Unfortunately, this holds eternal consequences.

[Diggindeeper]

Chad, I am SO sorry to hear this. My heart aches that America may be headed that same way. I can't figure people out any more, except to say that I see no fear of God in them. May God have mercy on the righteous in your nation and in mine!

[Sojourner55]

Yes, it's truly sad to see the world plunging headlong into the depths of immorality and ungodliness. Yet, that after all, is what the world is about. What is truly disheartening is to see so-called Christian churches and their leadership both condoning the sexual perversion and profaning the sacred institution of matrimony by performing same sex marriages. Apparently, the god of this world is rapidly becoming the god of these corrupt assemblies as well.

“You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people’s feet. (Matthew 5:13)

There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death. (Proverbs 16:25)

[IMINXTC]

I pray daily concerning these issues now pending before the US Supreme Court, having a hard time even imagining that same-sex marriage will be federally approved. This world is rapidly changing and those changes amount to a collective slap in the face of God.

It will be incumbent upon all true believers to stay very close to their God in these coming days, in light of the trend toward soft-soaping so prevalent among professing believers.

[chad]

Thankfully, the law passed in our country allows for Christian ministers and pastors to refuse to marry same sex couples without it being illegal, but I would not be surprised to see in the future the homosexual community having an objection to this based on human rights and discrimination and demand for a change in the law that will force christians ministers to have to marry same sex couples. Next on the agenda for the homosexual community is gay adoption in our country. In my opinion, there is definitely a gay liberation movement at hand in this world today. This phrasec omes to mind... allow a foothold and in the future it will grow and become a stronghold.

Yes, it's truly sad to see the world plunging headlong into the depths of immorality and godliness. Yet, that is what the world is about. What is truly disheartening is to see so-called Christian churches and their leadership both condoning the sexual perversion and profaning the sacred institution of matrimony by performing same sex marriages. Apparently, the god of this world is rapidly becoming the god of these corrupt assemblies as well.

“You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people’s feet. (Matthew 5:13)

There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death. (Proverbs 16:25)