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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    You're still taking the verse out of context. It's in the middle of a chapter.

    It's talking about Jerusalem and the Jewish people.
    Fenris, if you can't see the connection it is only because you don't want to see it. Does it have to be word for word and verse for verse?

    Again another verse.

    Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

    Isaiah 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

    If the kings and "aliens" (As you call them.) bring their glory into the city, then they will probably build your walls with precious stones.

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Isaiah 60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: they all are gathered together, and come to thee; thy sons come from far, and thy daughters are borne on the side.

    Ingathering of Jewish exiles?
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Isaiah 60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: they all are gathered together, and come to thee; thy sons come from far, and thy daughters are borne on the side.

    Ingathering of Jewish exiles?
    Yes, the resurrection.

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    Yes, the resurrection.
    Doesn't say that in the text anyplace.

    Chapter 49: 22 Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will lift up My hand to the nations, and set up Mine ensign to the peoples, and they shall bring thy sons in their bosom, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

    Ingathering of the exiles?
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Doesn't say that in the text anyplace.

    Chapter 49: 22 Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will lift up My hand to the nations, and set up Mine ensign to the peoples, and they shall bring thy sons in their bosom, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

    Ingathering of the exiles?
    Isaiah 60:19-21 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. Thy people also [shall be] all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

    No more sun for God shall be thy light. All the people shall be righteous. Sure sounds like the resurrection to me.

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    Doesn't say that in the text anyplace.

    Chapter 49: 22 Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will lift up My hand to the nations, and set up Mine ensign to the peoples, and they shall bring thy sons in their bosom, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

    Ingathering of the exiles?
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Doesn't say that in the text anyplace.

    Chapter 49: 22 Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will lift up My hand to the nations, and set up Mine ensign to the peoples, and they shall bring thy sons in their bosom, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

    Ingathering of the exiles?
    You have never commented on the sun.

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    You never commented on 49:22.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    You never commented on 49:22.
    Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    Isaiah 49:18 Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.

    They are connected.

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    They are connected.
    Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will lift up My hand to the nations, and set up Mine ensign to the peoples, and they shall bring thy sons in their bosom, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

    So what does it mean.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will lift up My hand to the nations, and set up Mine ensign to the peoples, and they shall bring thy sons in their bosom, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

    So what does it mean.
    I am not sure exactly what heaven is going to be like, but evidently the saved of Israel will be glorified.

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Or maybe it means what it says. The Jews will be gathered back to the land of Israel.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Or maybe it means what it says. The Jews will be gathered back to the land of Israel.
    Without the sun shinning.

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by rejoice44 View Post
    Without the sun shinning.
    You say some parts are literal and others poetic; so do I.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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    Re: Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    You say some parts are literal and others poetic; so do I.
    The New Testament clearly teaches that this earth is going to melt with a fervent heat, and a new heaven and a new earth will appear. In this new earth there will be no need of a sun, nor will there be any sin, or suffering.

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