Jewish Return (Not Just From Babylon)

[rejoice44]

The Exodus already happened. It's all right there, in the book of Exodus!

They didn't have doorposts to apply the blood to in the wilderness. Fenris you have to know that they were in Egypt when the death angel passed over.

[Fenris]

Not done in the desert. Exodus 12:25 It will come to pass when you come to the land which the Lord will give you, just as He promised, that you shall keep this service

The next two verses also explain why it is done. And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you: What mean ye by this service? that ye shall say: It is the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, for that He passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when He smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses.'


Past event. Not a future one.

[rejoice44]

The Exodus already happened. It's all right there, in the book of Exodus!

OK! Where were the doorposts located?

(Sorry I missed something here.)

[Fenris]

OK! Where were the doorposts located?

What doorposts?

[rejoice44]

Not done in the desert. Exodus 12:25 It will come to pass when you come to the land which the Lord will give you, just as He promised, that you shall keep this service

The first Passover, not the remembrance of it.

The next two verses also explain why it is done. And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you: What mean ye by this service? that ye shall say: It is the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, for that He passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when He smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses.'

Why did the death angel pass over the Jews.

[rejoice44]

What doorposts?

Sorry this reply was a mistake. I thought this was a duplicate reply, as I have seen in past, but it was not. I had made a mistake in thinking that I was looking at your last reply to me.

[Fenris]

The first Passover, not the remembrance of it.

I do not understand.

Why did the death angel pass over the Jews.

The bible says because the blood was on the doorposts.

It also says we are to observe this holiday forever, and to eat unleavened bread for seven days. This seems less interesting to you for some reason.

[rejoice44]

I do not understand.

The first Passover was not a remembrance, it was the night of the death angel.

The bible says because the blood was on the doorposts.

And why did God want blood on the doorposts?

It also says we are to observe this holiday forever, and to eat unleavened bread for seven days. This seems less interesting to you for some reason.

Which is more important the Law, or the Lawgiver? the clay or the potter?

[Fenris]

The first Passover was not a remembrance, it was the night of the death angel.

No, the first sacrifice was an act of defiance. The following ones were a remembrance.

And why did God want blood on the doorposts?

Bible does not say.

Which is more important the Law, or the Lawgiver? the clay or the potter?

God gave the law. He demanded that it be followed. What more do I need to know?

[rejoice44]

No, the first sacrifice was an act of defiance. The following ones were a remembrance.

If you would, could you explain this statement with some scripture for reference?

Bible does not say.

Sure it does, you just choose not to hear it. The doorway to salvation is paved with the blood of the perfect lamb. You do not need the New Testament to understand this concept.

God gave the law. He demanded that it be followed. What more do I need to know?

Brute animals know to pull the plow when the whip is applied, God expects a little more from us who are made in God's image. Is it better to worship the celebration of an event, or to celebrate the reason for the event?

[Fenris]

If you would, could you explain this statement with some scripture for reference?

Sure

Genesis 46 has Joseph telling his brothers: “When Pharaoh calls you and says, ‘What is your occupation?’ you shall say, ‘Your servants have been keepers of livestock from our youth even until now, both we and our fathers,’ that you may live in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is loathsome to the Egyptians.


The Hebrews were showing that they were no longer slaves. They were no longer bound by the Egyptians attitudes towards sheep and shepherds.

Sure it does, you just choose not to hear it.

It's not in my bible. You are free to believe what's in yours, of course.

Brute animals know to pull the plow when the whip is applied, God expects a little more from us who are made in God's image.

Actually, God told us what he wants. You've ignored my posts on the subject however.

[Wall]

There are three resurrections...

1) The dead in Christ at His return...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

2) There is the Great White Throne Judgment after the Millenium

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


Israel - Eze 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

The rest of humanity not in the first or third resurrections - Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

The books are the books of the Bible. Same books we are judged from today. Same standard then as now.

3) This is the resurrection to damnation

Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Notice in this resurrection the books are not opened? This is the resurrection to the second death.

Your 2 and your 3 are 1 in the same. Just because it doesnt mention books being opened in 1 of the passages...... ??