When our loved ones pass away they DO NOT become our guardian angels

[HollyRock]

People mistakenly believe that their deceased loved ones become their guardian angels but that is simply not the truth as angels are a completely different class of being than humans dead or alive. God created Angels but He breathed His life into us.

[Jeanne D]

People mistakenly believe that their deceased loved ones become their guardian angels but that is simply not the truth as angels are a completely different class of being than humans dead or alive. God created Angels but He breathed His life into us.

That is correct. I guess it's a comforting thought to some people, however more comforting than that is knowing our loved one is with the Lord, (unless, heaven forbid, they don't know the Lord).

Jeanne

[nzyr]

Yes people don't become angels when they die.

[Reynolds357]

People mistakenly believe that their deceased loved ones become their guardian angels but that is simply not the truth as angels are a completely different class of being than humans dead or alive. God created Angels but He breathed His life into us.

That has always been my theological stance as well. Recently, I am re-evaluating that stance. I do agree that dead saints do not become angels, but I see nothing in scripture that absolutely rules out the possibility that they in their spirit form can visit Earth. My grandmother (maw-maw) recently died. My son at the time was 15 months old. He had only seen her a few times in his life. One night, about a month after she died, the lights briefly went off and my son said "dark" in a startled voice. I told him "you dont have to be scared of the dark because Jesus has given you an angel to protect you." He said "uh huh, maw-maw." I asked him if he saw Maw-Maw, he said "yes yes, night night." He did not sleep well from the time he was born until a couple days after my grandmother died. He then, all of a sudden, started going to bed without fussing and sleeping all night.
I asked everyone in the family or that has any dealing with my son if they have ever talked to him about Maw Maw being an angel or anything of that nature and they all say no.

[Jeanne D]

That has always been my theological stance as well. Recently, I am re-evaluating that stance. I do agree that dead saints do not become angels, but I see nothing in scripture that absolutely rules out the possibility that they in their spirit form can visit Earth. My grandmother (maw-maw) recently died. My son at the time was 15 months old. He had only seen her a few times in his life. One night, about a month after she died, the lights briefly went off and my son said "dark" in a startled voice. I told him "you dont have to be scared of the dark because Jesus has given you an angel to protect you." He said "uh huh, maw-maw." I asked him if he saw Maw-Maw, he said "yes yes, night night." He did not sleep well from the time he was born until a couple days after my grandmother died. He then, all of a sudden, started going to bed without fussing and sleeping all night.
I asked everyone in the family or that has any dealing with my son if they have ever talked to him about Maw Maw being an angel or anything of that nature and they all say no.

I honestly don't know about that but I think that is forbidden Deuteronomy 18:10.
I also remember the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. The rich man wanted to go back and warn his brothers of what was awaiting them when they died and he was forbidden to communicate with them.
As far as your son's experience, I'm not sure what happened there. It's hard to say.

Jeanne

Luke 16:19-31

[19] "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. [20] At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores [21] and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

[22] "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. [23] In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. [24] So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'

[25] "But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

[27] "He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, [28] for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'

[29] "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'

[30] " 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'

[31] "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

[amazzin]

My brother the Bible says that we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses. My opinion is that our loved one who have gone before us are in that category of "great cloud of witnesses"

I also take this time to offer you my condolences for your recent loss. May the Lord comfort you and bring you great peace.

That has always been my theological stance as well. Recently, I am re-evaluating that stance. I do agree that dead saints do not become angels, but I see nothing in scripture that absolutely rules out the possibility that they in their spirit form can visit Earth. My grandmother (maw-maw) recently died. My son at the time was 15 months old. He had only seen her a few times in his life. One night, about a month after she died, the lights briefly went off and my son said "dark" in a startled voice. I told him "you dont have to be scared of the dark because Jesus has given you an angel to protect you." He said "uh huh, maw-maw." I asked him if he saw Maw-Maw, he said "yes yes, night night." He did not sleep well from the time he was born until a couple days after my grandmother died. He then, all of a sudden, started going to bed without fussing and sleeping all night.
I asked everyone in the family or that has any dealing with my son if they have ever talked to him about Maw Maw being an angel or anything of that nature and they all say no.

[Reynolds357]

I honestly don't know about that but I think that is forbidden Deuteronomy 18:10.
I also remember the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. The rich man wanted to go back and warn his brothers of what was awaiting them when they died and he was forbidden to communicate with them.
As far as your son's experience, I'm not sure what happened there. It's hard to say.

Jeanne

Deut 18:10 has absolutely nothing to do God sending messengers or servants to us.
The rich man attempting to cross over is also, in my mind, totally unrelated.

[Reynolds357]

My brother the Bible says that we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses. My opinion is that our loved one who have gone before us are in that category of "great cloud of witnesses"

I also take this time to offer you my condolences for your recent loss. May the Lord comfort you and bring you great peace.

Thank you..........

[Jeanne D]

Deut 18:10 has absolutely nothing to do God sending messengers or servants to us.
The rich man attempting to cross over is also, in my mind, totally unrelated.

Ok well I'm leary about that sort of stuff. Not that it isn't possible but I sometimes wonder if it's the enemy masquerading as one of our loved ones. There are people who claim to see ghosts but I don't believe they are actually their departed loved ones, but rather demons.
I'm not saying that's the case with what your son experienced, but it's something I am cautious about.
My condolences also for your loss.

Jeanne

[Vhayes]

That has always been my theological stance as well. Recently, I am re-evaluating that stance. I do agree that dead saints do not become angels, but I see nothing in scripture that absolutely rules out the possibility that they in their spirit form can visit Earth. My grandmother (maw-maw) recently died. My son at the time was 15 months old. He had only seen her a few times in his life. One night, about a month after she died, the lights briefly went off and my son said "dark" in a startled voice. I told him "you dont have to be scared of the dark because Jesus has given you an angel to protect you." He said "uh huh, maw-maw." I asked him if he saw Maw-Maw, he said "yes yes, night night." He did not sleep well from the time he was born until a couple days after my grandmother died. He then, all of a sudden, started going to bed without fussing and sleeping all night.
I asked everyone in the family or that has any dealing with my son if they have ever talked to him about Maw Maw being an angel or anything of that nature and they all say no.

Hey Reynolds - that's absolutely beautiful.

I'm sorry for the lost of your beloved grandmother but I thank you for sharing this story.
V

[Jeanne D]

Deut 18:10 has absolutely nothing to do God sending messengers or servants to us.
The rich man attempting to cross over is also, in my mind, totally unrelated.

I'm not trying to argue with you but after re-reading these verses, let me mention this one in particular:

But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

Jeanne

[Reynolds357]

Ok well I'm leary about that sort of stuff. Not that it isn't possible but I sometimes wonder if it's the enemy masquerading as one of our loved ones. There are people who claim to see ghosts but I don't believe they are actually their departed loved ones, but rather demons.
I'm not saying that's the case with what your son experienced, but it's something I am cautious about.
My condolences also for your loss.

Jeanne

Thank you,
I am also very cautious of the the manifestation of familiar spirits.

[Reynolds357]

Hey Reynolds - that's absolutely beautiful.

I'm sorry for the lost of your beloved grandmother but I thank you for sharing this story.
V

Thanks V............

[Reynolds357]

I'm not trying to argue with you but after re-reading these verses, let me mention this one in particular:



Jeanne

The prohibition is referencing crossing over between Hadees and Abram's Bosom.

[Jeanne D]

The prohibition is referencing crossing over between Hadees and Abram's Bosom.

Doesn't that also indicate the dead being unable to communicate with the living?

Jeanne