TARTAR...?

[awestruckchild]

I seem to remember a bible of mine having comments at the bottom of the page that gave another word for hell as being....was it Tartar?
What does the word mean in whatever language it is from?
Actually, maybe the word given was...tartarus?
I am guessing the word might translate as "darkness" but that is just a guess....

[awestruckchild]

Aha! I found an online place that has given me the answer.
It IS "tartarus" but seems to refer to a specific place of darkness and gloom where fallen angels are imprisoned...

It was interesting to me because I was just reading about Louis Pasteur. He began his career as a chemist for a french winery, studying the crystals that form inside wine barrels.
They are called tartaric crystals and I began to wonder if the name came from something related to the word tartarus. Then, I became convinced of this as I read further and found that Pasteur discovered there were two types of these crystals and tartaric crystals have the effect on polarized light that they cause the light to turn to the right. Even more amazing is that he discovered some of the crystals had no effect on light and then noted that these crystals (called PARAtartaric) were made up of BOTH tartaric and another crystal which were....opposites of each other, like mirror images.
So I am pretty sure these crystals were named from this greek word. I mean, they cause a turning away of the light.....interesting!

[Saved7]

Yeah, there is a word in there somewhere of "tartarus" but I can't seem to find it in the on line concordance. Maybe my spelling is off.

[Saved7]

hmmm, interesting.

[granpa]

http://www.theoi.com/Protogenos/Tartaros.html

TA′RTARUS (Tartaros), a son of Aether and Ge, and by his mother Ge the father of the Gigantes, Typhoeus and Echidna. (Hygin. Praef. p. 3, &c., Fab. 152 ; Hes. Theog. 821 ; Apollod. ii. 1. § 2.) In the Iliad Tartarus is a place far below the earth, as far below Hades as Heaven is above the earth, and closed by iron gates.

[little watchman]

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment. (2 Peter 2:4, VW-edition)

This is the only occurrence of Tartarus in the Bible.

[nimblewillsgrace]

funny to me how it comes from Greek/Roman mythology and made its way into the Bible?

[Athanasius]

Is that a problem that it did? Paul also quotes Greek philosophers.

[Slug1]

The Bible also quotes scriptures from Enoch, which man voted the entire book of Enoch out of the present Canon!

Now that don't make sense

[aftertheflood]

The principle you are describing is called polarization. The crystals that "bent" light to the right are referred to as being dexorotary and the ones that "bend" light to the left are referred to as being levorotary. These class of compounds are called chiral compounds and each is what is called an enantiomer, a stereochemical term describing the mirror image morphology. A mixture of them is referred to as a racemic mixture or a raceme. Today's chemistry lesson.

[Old man]

funny to me how it comes from Greek/Roman mythology and made its way into the Bible?

Or did they take a spiritual reality and adapt it to what was right in their own eyes? Everyone who has created an idol to worship has done this. They have taken a spiritual truth (reality) that God exists and created an idol that reflects this reality yet instead of the true God it is one of their own imaginings using the template of a created thing whether it is man, animal or a mix of the two.

So perhaps the real question should be, "how did a spiritual reality end up in Greek/Roman mythology?"

[Scooby_Snacks]

The principle you are describing is called polarization. The crystals that "bent" light to the right are referred to as being dexorotary and the ones that "bend" light to the left are referred to as being levorotary. These class of compounds are called chiral compounds and each is what is called an enantiomer, a stereochemical term describing the mirror image morphology. A mixture of them is referred to as a racemic mixture or a raceme. Today's chemistry lesson.

I didnt even see how fast that went over my head!

I find it interesting just how many ways the term polarization can be used, as well.

Simple description for me would be a division to the extreme.

[Saved7]

http://www.theoi.com/Protogenos/Tartaros.html TA′RTARUS (Tartaros), a son of Aether and Ge, and by his mother Ge the father of the Gigantes, Typhoeus and Echidna. (Hygin. Praef. p. 3, &c., Fab. 152 ; Hes. Theog. 821 ; Apollod. ii. 1. § 2.) In the Iliad Tartarus is a place far below the earth, as far below Hades as Heaven is above the earth, and closed by iron gates.

Hmmm, interesting that the term "Gigantes" is used in this. I wonder if that's where we get our word for "giants" and "gigantic".

[Saved7]

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment. (2 Peter 2:4, VW-edition)

This is the only occurrence of Tartarus in the Bible.

REally? I thought i saw it somewhere in the OT as well.

[Theophilus]

Better yet, tartar backwards is rat rat...something I find endlessly amusing, for some reason.