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    Re: TARTAR...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old man View Post
    Or did they take a spiritual reality and adapt it to what was right in their own eyes? Everyone who has created an idol to worship has done this. They have taken a spiritual truth (reality) that God exists and created an idol that reflects this reality yet instead of the true God it is one of their own imaginings using the template of a created thing whether it is man, animal or a mix of the two.

    So perhaps the real question should be, "how did a spiritual reality end up in Greek/Roman mythology?"
    You bring up an excellent point. Just because something is a part of mythology, doesn't mean it didn't have it's origins in truth. AFter all, we can see that the truth was given at the beginng, and yet there are a lot of false religions out there. Each one still believes in a god or an after life of some sort, because they all have their origins in the truth, but the truth got twisted up by Cain and his descendants.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggindeeper View Post
    You CANNOT rightly divide the word by plucking out ONE verse to prove a theory you devised! You just can't do that. If I adhered to your way of interpreting scripture, then I promise you I can show you a verse that will PROVE Jesus was the head of a gang of horse thieves!

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    tartarus represents the stage where the earth became whole and the sea was no more.
    (or certainly very close)
    that is why it is described as being so very very large and deep
    compared to tartarus our whole universe is nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertheflood View Post
    The principle you are describing is called polarization. The crystals that "bent" light to the right are referred to as being dexorotary and the ones that "bend" light to the left are referred to as being levorotary. These class of compounds are called chiral compounds and each is what is called an enantiomer, a stereochemical term describing the mirror image morphology. A mixture of them is referred to as a racemic mixture or a raceme. Today's chemistry lesson.
    Hmm...I thought polarization just meant something has an electrical charge....I wonder if tartaric crystals have a positive charge and paratartaric have a negative charge, but no, that doesn't make sense....neither ONE of them alone attracts the light...
    I thought this left/right hand mirror image thing was called "stereoisomers"....
    And in addition, I am now reading about refractive indexes, which BEND light and trying to fit all of that in....I think it sounds like the speed of light is altered (either slowed down or speeded up) when it moves from one object to another, maybe depending on the density of the object, or how close or far apart molecules are in it....??
    And why would they describe immersion oil as "displacing the air?" It can't REALLY displace air, can it? You "displace" air in a vacuum, right?...it just has the effect of the light neither speeding or slowing it's travel because the refractive indexes between the oil and the lens on the microscope (glass) are nearly the same?
    When light "twists", as with tartaric crystals, and "bends" as with differentiating refractive indexes, these are two different things, right?

    Or....does the speed of the light just stay constant and...everything refracts light some bit, but there is LESS refraction the more an object is better at absorbing some of it...?

    This is all so fascinating considering that in Genesis, my word study of: and He called the light,day, and the darkness He called, night - seemed to suggest this meaning: And He called the light, wonderful, everlasting, and He called the darkness, a TWISTING AWAY OF THE LIGHT....wow! This all just further cements it in my mind that He DID create darkness as it says in Job, but HOW He did it was in a negative manner - by simply TURNING AWAY from satan, i.e., witholding the light.
    "knowledge makes arrogant but love edifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theophilus View Post
    Better yet, tartar backwards is rat rat...something I find endlessly amusing, for some reason.
    Yep that's funny. Man, Theophilus it has been a long time. Great to see you still around.
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    Okay, so the immersion oil DOES in fact displace the air. I did not understand that you get the microscope set up and focused on the lower objective and then turn it halfway to the highest objective, place a drop of oil on the slide, then roll it into the oil. So glass hits oil instead of air and refraction doesn't occur.

    But the most amazing thing is, the thing that keeps the light from refracting/veering is....OIL!! Everything I find in my science classes shows the glory of God and it is a strange blindness that cannot see this!! I suppose it is just that none of them have read the bible?

    I heard someone say (Ravi Zacharias, I think) that science has removed all of the wonder, but every day in every class, I repeatedly see that it just shows forth the wonder!! I mean, it is OIL that causes the light to not bend or veer and distort the object! How can you not SEE that God has set this up to show His glory???
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