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    Re: Seminary Knowledge and Atypical Beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    You might want to study the translation process in play that yielded the English translation "committeth."
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    Re: Seminary Knowledge and Atypical Beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Which seminaries are liberal, and which teach truth? Could it be that the Spirit can use either to teach, if the heart of the disciple is right?

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    I guess God could use an art school to teach orthopedic surgery if He so chooses , but I seriously doubt it will happen.

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    They both went to seminaries supported by Disciples of Christ/Church of Christ. Are those liberal denominations? Also, the younger man today admitted that he dropped out of seminary and at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you believe religion-wise. He would probably say "all ways lead to Heaven" but I'm sorry, I could probably never agree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    I guess God could use an art school to teach orthopedic surgery if He so chooses , but I seriously doubt it will happen.
    Apples & oranges anyone?

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    Re: Seminary Knowledge and Atypical Beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Apples & oranges anyone?

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    You mean for still life art?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Apples & oranges anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youssarian View Post
    You mean for still life art?

    Ah yes, Grasshopper. Much instruction about orthopedic surgery contained above!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youssarian View Post
    They both went to seminaries supported by Disciples of Christ/Church of Christ. Are those liberal denominations? Also, the younger man today admitted that he dropped out of seminary and at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you believe religion-wise. He would probably say "all ways lead to Heaven" but I'm sorry, I could probably never agree with that.
    I do not know anything about Disciples of Christ, but The Church of Christ is a cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    I do not know anything about Disciples of Christ, but The Church of Christ is a cult.

    cult
       [kuhlt] Show IPA

    noun
    1.
    a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

    2.
    an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.

    3.
    the object of such devotion.

    4.
    a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.

    5.
    Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

    Hmmm, I used to attend the Methodist cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    I do not know anything about Disciples of Christ, but The Church of Christ is a cult.
    I'd be a bit hesitant to say all CoC's are cultic. CoC can really vary. I've had my own run-in with a splinter group that was definitely at the cult end of the spectrum.
    It is only the cynic who claims “to speak the truth” at all times and in all places to all men in the same way, but who, in fact, displays nothing but a lifeless image of the truth… He dons the halo of the fanatical devotee of truth who can make no allowance for human weaknesses; but, in fact, he is destroying the living truth between men. He wounds shame, desecrates mystery, breaks confidence, betrays the community in which he lives, and laughs arrogantly at the devastation he has wrought and at the human weakness which “cannot bear the truth”. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in Ethics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John 8:32 View Post
    cult
       [kuhlt] Show IPA

    noun
    1.
    a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

    2.
    an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.

    3.
    the object of such devotion.

    4.
    a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.

    5.
    Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

    Hmmm, I used to attend the Methodist cult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    I'd be a bit hesitant to say all CoC's are cultic. CoC can really vary. I've had my own run-in with a splinter group that was definitely at the cult end of the spectrum.
    I was raised in the CoC. There are about 20 different groups under the umbrella of that name. Given that each congregation is autonomous, there is bound to be (and is) a lot of variation. The ones that are being called liberal (by the cultic end of the CoC spectrum) at this time are the ones teaching about grace. FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Ah yes, Grasshopper. Much instruction about orthopedic surgery contained above!

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    Good. If I study it long enough I might figure out why my side occasionally hurts.

    Anyway, is it indeed possible that a person who has deeper knowledge of the Christian faith might appear so markedly unusual in comparison to the average Christian? I can see why that might happen. Theoretically, a person who studies the theology might find things the typical layman never knew or bothered to learn, so as a result that person might be able to safely act and believe in ways that aren't normally accepted by less educated laymen. They might seem more "liberal," if you will, because they have a better understanding of Christian freedom. But does that kind of thing actually happen in real life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youssarian View Post
    Good. If I study it long enough I might figure out why my side occasionally hurts.

    Anyway, is it indeed possible that a person who has deeper knowledge of the Christian faith might appear so markedly unusual in comparison to the average Christian? I can see why that might happen. Theoretically, a person who studies the theology might find things the typical layman never knew or bothered to learn, so as a result that person might be able to safely act and believe in ways that aren't normally accepted by less educated laymen. They might seem more "liberal," if you will, because they have a better understanding of Christian freedom. But does that kind of thing actually happen in real life?
    One of the most educated men in theology I know believes homosexuality is OK and divorced his wife for one of his students he taught in seminary.
    In his case, much learning has made him a borderline fool. I used and chose those words carefully because he is on the verge of totally losing his faith.

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    Re: Seminary Knowledge and Atypical Beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds357 View Post
    You might want to study the translation process in play that yielded the English translation "committeth."
    The folks who go down the "habitual" sin lane say that as long as your sin is not constant you are OK. I say that if you can never say that you are without sin, then your sin is constant, is ongoing, is habitual.
    My repentance of sin, (turn from or change)was true. I don't sin. I don't miss the mark. I don't slip-up, err, backslide, or in any way prove that I love some "thing" more than I love Jesus. (Please ask me about 1 Jo 1:8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJW View Post
    The folks who go down the "habitual" sin lane say that as long as your sin is not constant you are OK. I say that if you can never say that you are without sin, then your sin is constant, is ongoing, is habitual.
    My repentance of sin, (turn from or change)was true. I don't sin. I don't miss the mark. I don't slip-up, err, backslide, or in any way prove that I love some "thing" more than I love Jesus. (Please ask me about 1 Jo 1:8)
    Um... yeah. You go on believing that. In any case, it's not related to the question I've asked in this thread. Perhaps a different threat would be suited for such a topic.
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