Obamas Power Grab -- AMNESTY!!

[Dravenhawk]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...gration-policy

In a mid morning news presser Emperor Obama announced today he was granting "amnesty" to a specific class of illeagal aliens who came to this country illeagally as children brought here by parrents who came here illeagally. This act is completely unconstitutional and bybasses the congress and courts. Whats next Congress is disolved? Elections suspended? Emperor Obama declares himself as King?

Dravenhawk

[nimblewillsgrace]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...gration-policy

In a mid morning news presser Emperor Obama announced today he was granting "amnesty" to a specific class of illeagal aliens who came to this country illeagally as children brought here by parrents who came here illeagally. This act is completely unconstitutional and bybasses the congress and courts. Whats next Congress is disolved? Elections suspended? Emperor Obama declares himself as King?

Dravenhawk

I am in no way an Obama supporter but he clearly said that it was NOT amnesty or a path to citizenship.

[the inside out]

It makes sense to me to work on the economy and lowering unemployment before giving over 800K people job waivers or work on ACTUAL immigration reform and securing our borders before giving people a reason to cross into the country illegally, but who am I?

One way or the other, Obama took his muddy shoes and stepped all over the constitution.

I am in no way an Obama supporter but he clearly said that it was NOT amnesty or a path to citizenship.

If it's not amnesty or a path to citizenship, then it's unnecessary. It's a short term hot mess without any real definition. It's "back door" and way to please Latinos without having to do anything for them.

[student of the Lamb]

In a conversation last night on Fox news channel Bill O'Reilly and Lou Dobbs both agreed that this action on Obama's part was a very good move politically. It may not be legal in the way it was done but it will put Romney behind the eight ball. It will not help him at this time against Latinos to come out against this move to allow this illegal immigrants to stay. Obama is more concerned in re-election than he is concerned in what is legal.

[Dravenhawk]

In a conversation last night on Fox news channel Bill O'Reilly and Lou Dobbs both agreed that this action on Obama's part was a very good move politically. It may not be legal in the way it was done but it will put Romney behind the eight ball. It will not help him at this time against Latinos to come out against this move to allow this illegal immigrants to stay. Obama is more concerned in re-election than he is concerned in what is legal.

Realistically it is all in the presentation. Just like child murderers are called "pro choice" Romney needs to present boarder security as "pro citizenship" All Romney has to do is say he has a 'plan' for citizenship without ever giving out details. After he gets the prez he deploys the 'plan' replete with e-verify, voter ID, cut offs from SSI welfare and food stamps, english only, deployment of military at boarder and a fleet of busses and aircraft to deport the illeagal aliens back to their country of origen. ---

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[student of the Lamb]

Realistically it is all in the presentation. Just like child murderers are called "pro choice" Romney needs to present boarder security as "pro citizenship" All Romney has to do is say he has a 'plan' for citizenship without ever giving out details. After he gets the prez he deploys the 'plan' replete with e-verify, voter ID, cut offs from SSI welfare and food stamps, english only, deployment of military at boarder and a fleet of busses and aircraft to deport the illeagal aliens back to their country of origen. ---

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The reason it was a good move politically that I should have mentioned was that it was meant to draw votes only. I think that Obama knew that this would be a battle that he would lose in Washington. He is trying to show sympathy for them in order to draw their votes. That will mean that Romney will have to address the issue in some way BEFORE the election if he is going to sway some of the Latino voters who would be leaning at this time towards Obama

[HisLeast]

In a mid morning news presser Emperor Obama announced today he was granting "amnesty" to a specific class of illeagal aliens who came to this country illeagally as children brought here by parrents who came here illeagally.

This is a lie. How can you possibly justify this deliberate misrepresentation of reality on a Christian forum?

[HisLeast]

The reason it was a good move politically that I should have mentioned was that it was meant to draw votes only. I think that Obama knew that this would be a battle that he would lose in Washington. He is trying to show sympathy for them in order to draw their votes. That will mean that Romney will have to address the issue in some way BEFORE the election if he is going to sway some of the Latino voters who would be leaning at this time towards Obama

How can he draw their votes? They aren't citizens.

[RevLogos]

How can he draw their votes? They aren't citizens.

How many states check the citizenship status of voters, and how do they do it?

And why is the DOJ suing Florida to prevent them from cleaning up their voter roles?

[student of the Lamb]

How can he draw their votes? They aren't citizens.

The illegal immigrants are not the only Latinos in America. There are millions of them. THIS is the reason that Obama has been pushing for amnesty, in order to swing the Latino vote. There have been as many as 12 million illegals that Obama would have given amnesty. Some have, of course, left more recently because of the down turn in the economy. This amnesty would have had a very strong affect on swinging the vote of legal Latino voters in his favor as he sees it. It does not necessarily ring true as many legal Latinos are very disturbed over others being given amnesty after they went about things the legal way.

BTW - It was proven recently that you do not have to be a citizen to vote. Recently a man went into a polling place in the same area where Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney General, is a registered voter. He told the people at the polling place that he was Eric Holder and voted in that election as Eric Holder.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1832036/pg1

[RevLogos]

Politico:

A White House official said the strategy is the result of a stalemate in Washington.

“We we work to achieve our policy goals in the most effective and appropriate way possible,” the official said. “Often times Congress has blocked efforts (ie [No Child Left Behind] and DREAM) and we look to pursue other appropriate means of achieving our policy goals. Sometimes this makes for less than ideal policy situations - such as the action we took on immigration - but the president isn’t going to be stonewalled by politics, he will pursue whatever means available to do business on behalf of American people.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1xz7zPgaN

The US is supposed to be a constitutional democratic republic. The "people" are represented by the House, and the states are represented by the Senate. It is only the House and Senate that can enact laws. Obama is saying that the House and Senate aren't doing what I want them to do, so I will do what I want to do anyway. He doesn't accept that the reason he is being stonewalled is because the people want him stonewalled. Ripping up the constitution is not an "appropriate means of achieving our policy goals."

The executive branch is now enacting its own laws irrespective of what the people or the states want. The US is no longer a democratic republic. It is transforming into a totalitarian state right before our eyes. If We the People let him get away with this, then what's next?

[Liquid Tension]

OK, most everyone knows that I'm not at all an Obama fan, but remember, Reagan also signed an anmesty bill. However, he did come to regret it later.

Which brings me to this question: If Reagan thought it was wrong back then, why is it a good idea now? (aside from BHO wanting the Latino vote)

[Vhayes]

The illegal immigrants are not the only Latinos in America. There are millions of them. THIS is the reason that Obama has been pushing for amnesty, in order to swing the Latino vote. There have been as many as 12 million illegals that Obama would have given amnesty. Some have, of course, left more recently because of the down turn in the economy. This amnesty would have had a very strong affect on swinging the vote of legal Latino voters in his favor as he sees it. It does not necessarily ring true as many legal Latinos are very disturbed over others being given amnesty after they went about things the legal way.

BTW - It was proven recently that you do not have to be a citizen to vote. Recently a man went into a polling place in the same area where Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney General, is a registered voter. He told the people at the polling place that he was Eric Holder and voted in that election as Eric Holder.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1832036/pg1

Then the man should be prosecuted.

Godlike indeed.

[keck553]

How can he draw their votes? They aren't citizens.

The state of Florida is being sued right now by the Obama administration for taking steps, to ensure voters are citizens. Several other states are also being sued for taking common sense steps to ensure the integrity of the electorate. The bottom line is that the dems are doing everything in their power to allow any possible fraud in the way of non citizen's votes to be counted. Obama knows he can't win the American votes, so he's pandering to non citizens (and their activists)

Viva le Mexico

[Laish]

The state of Florida is being sued right now by the Obama administration for taking steps, to ensure voters are citizens. Several other states are also being sued for taking common sense steps to ensure the integrity of the electorate. The bottom line is that the dems are doing everything in their power to allow any possible fraud in the way of non citizen's votes to be counted. Obama knows he can't win the American votes, so he's pandering to non citizens (and their activists)


Viva le Mexico

keck553 I think you have it wrong about the why an how the president is trying to win the election .
The dems can easily win the vote here without illegals . President Obama is doing a good job at it right now . He has gotten us to take our eye off what has driven him an others down in the polls . It's the economy not the illegal immigration issue. Immigration has people on both sides firmly in place most will not budge no matter if the president did Friday . Hammer him on the economy the dems lose keep this distraction going he an others might win

Bill