Southern Baptist set to elect first Black President

[Reynolds357]

I think you're absolutely right. The blacks didn't want to be de-segregated, we forced em into it. They were perfectly happy at the back of the bus and the colored only water fountains.

I think a huge faction of blacks would prefer "separate but equal" if "equal" were truly equal. From what I see today, as a whole, blacks are much more racist than whites.

[student of the Lamb]

I will agree with that statement. They are much quicker to use the race card, particularly in politics.

[Youssarian]

I am a Southern Baptist. There are many black men I would love to see as the President of the convention, but putting a token in the position to help win a P.R. battle is a mistake. The SBC will split within the next 5 to 10 years. The Charismatic and non Charismatic debate is really heating up. Many of the SBC churches in the South (cant speak for other ares) are still racist. Many have already promised to leave if the name SBC is changed. I would imagine electing a black president will add fuel to that fire.
Should be interesting in the next few years to come.

I intend on attending a Southern Baptist church in two months' time when I move for university. The Charismatic churches I've attended for the past four years just don't cut it for me, but I've been visiting a Southern Baptist church on Wednesdays and it has been a very awesome experience. I'd hate for their to be a split. I also am disappointed that the SBC is marked by racism.

[Christ Warrior]

I will agree with that statement. They are much quicker to use the race card, particularly in politics.

Using the race card doesnt necesarily mean that the person is racist, it could be a defense mechanism, especially if said person's race has been disrespected throughout history.

[Bandit]

Decades ago there was an attempt made through government actions towards desegregation. In the end what happened was that many blacks decided that they really did not want to be desegregated and the action pretty much died on the tree.

Hey student,

Could you explain what you meant here? (Perhaps give some examples of what you mean?) I lived in Mississippi during the mid 60's and 70's, and at least there, desegregation in the public arena - like schools - was much needed, in my opinion.

[student of the Lamb]

It was much needed but in some respects it was done without feelings. "Let's just do this." It was a political tool. The town in which I lived once had a grade school for all the black children. It was closed down to integrate the children into the other schools as busing moved children to other schools. That, in itself, was a bad thing because it put the spotlight on these children as they were moved in by bus rather than living in the school area. They never fit in. Their families were being forced into integrating. There was also hopes that blacks would also move into the other areas. This pretty well pushed blacks into a closer, ghetto style mentality. It did not help that they also became political pawns where the one party continued to help them become more and more dependent on the government for their livelihoods. Many times when good ideas are dealt with politically the ones being helped are hurt more than helped.Today that ghetto mentality still exists. and if one were to look at the statistics they would find that the political game has caused more damage to blacks than it has helped. The majority of the cities listed below are now black inner city ghettos. Forced integration eventually pushed the blacks back into the ghetto mentality.

According to an American Community Survey, by the U.S. Census Bureau, the top 10 poorest cities with populations more than 250,000 are Detroit, with 33 percent of its residents below the poverty line; Buffalo, N.Y., 30 percent; Cincinnati, 28 percent; Cleveland, 27 percent; Miami, 27 percent; St. Louis, 27 percent; El Paso, Texas, 26 percent; Milwaukee, 26 percent; Philadelphia, 25 percent; and Newark, N.J., 24 percent.

[student of the Lamb]

Using the race card doesnt necesarily mean that the person is racist, it could be a defense mechanism, especially if said person's race has been disrespected throughout history.

Does that make it right?

[Reynolds357]

Hey student,

Could you explain what you meant here? (Perhaps give some examples of what you mean?) I lived in Mississippi during the mid 60's and 70's, and at least there, desegregation in the public arena - like schools - was much needed, in my opinion.

It is much needed that we as Americans eat healthy. Would it be more effective to educate on healthy eating or to ban all non-healthy foods? True change has to come because people want to change. No matter how noble the cause, ramming it down the throat of those who do not wish to receive it usually encourages rebellion and only further delays the effective implementation of the goal you seek to bring about.
Had desegregation happened differently, would there have been the hatred and bitterness for decades that there has been? Don't know, but it makes an interesting (though pointless) academic discussion.

[Reynolds357]

Using the race card doesnt necesarily mean that the person is racist, it could be a defense mechanism, especially if said person's race has been disrespected throughout history.

If you use the race card, you are a racist. Black people were slaves and my people were butchered to the point of near extinction. We can either be bitter about that and use it as an excuse for our failures, or we can realize that the people who did both are dead and that now we, as minorities, actually have a weighted playing field that is in our favor. (I think that is wrong, but a discussion for a different day.) If I blame my failures on "white man and his racism," does that cause me to be successful, or does it simply give me an excuse for being a screw up? I rarely ever run into a white person who is racist against me. If they are, they hide it well. I encounter black racists almost daily. Most blacks around here hate Hispanics and sure dont like Tribal Americans (the new p.c. word for Indians (lol). I dont care. Its fun sometimes. Many members of the black community are using racism as an excuse for their failures instead of facing the reality that only hard work will change their situation. Just my 2 cents.

[keck553]

Using the race card doesnt necesarily mean that the person is racist, it could be a defense mechanism, especially if said person's race has been disrespected throughout history.

You mean like the Jews?

[Reynolds357]

You mean like the Jews?

You can pick any race of people on the face of the Earth and track cycles and times of their severe oppression.

[keck553]

You can pick any race of people on the face of the Earth and track cycles and times of their severe oppression.

Yep. .

[Christ Warrior]

You mean like the Jews?

Im sure some use it too. My statment was not limited to one group of people.

[keck553]

Im sure some use it too. My statment was not limited to one group of people.

Obama was never oppressed. Neither was his "dad"

[Reynolds357]

Obama was never oppressed. Neither was his "dad"

Not sure about that, I am very ignorant on Kenyan history.